Gee, I don't want to fix it, I need to use it as a hammer to make them run the 
extra drops. :)  In pretty much all our offices, the extra cost to run 2 drops 
at every station winds up being a total of a few hundred dollars tops.  
Essentially we've already sized things to use 2 drops so they have the switch 
ports, wiring labor is essentially the same, so the total cost is some extra 
wire (maybe, if they happen to use more than one box because of it) plus the 
extra connectors.  Offices are usually less than 25 people so it's basically a 
wash after they have any event that would have been avoided.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 10:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] vlan on single port

Melvin's comments are good ones. I do know that higher-end Cisco and PolyCom 
phones don't have those restrictions.

"phone reset" causes loss of network connectivity for the PC - this is because 
of a PORT reset on the switch. Make sure the port is specified as a client port 
("portfast" on Cisco) so that the port doesn't participate in STP calculations. 
At least, this was true in my experience, your mileage may vary.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Melvin Backus
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 7:01 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] vlan on single port

Mitel.  Specifically the 5312 units.

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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 9:03 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] vlan on single port

Melvin, which brand of voip phones did you have this issue with?

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On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 4:55 AM, Melvin Backus 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Yes, it's possible.  I don't recommend it however.  There are a couple of 
common issues they will run into if they piggy back things.

When the phone resets (for any reason) you'll lose network connectivity on the 
PC.  In some cases we see it actually cause a PC reboot which I've yet to 
understand, but it can be reproduced.

On some (most?) phone sets, the network port is 100MB instead of GB, so you may 
end up restricting network throughput by doing this.  Some phones have GB 
ports, normally the higher end ones, and that will obviously be equipment 
specific, but it's something to watch for.



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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] 
On Behalf Of J- P
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 6:11 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [NTSysADM] vlan on single port

Hi all
i have a client that is setting up a new office with voip and naturally I'm 
recomending seperate drops and a seperate switch (small office < 30 users) 
,however , as most clients, they dont want spend anymore money than they have 
to, so they want to piggy back the computers to the phones ethernet port . Is 
it possible to vlan off the same drop/port ?




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