That's what I was telling them, and I only charge an extra 25 dollars for a dbl drop (I'm already well below the average pricing per drop), but I guess the penny-wise pound-foolish prevails yet again
From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] vlan on single port Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 15:47:48 +0000 Gee, I don’t want to fix it, I need to use it as a hammer to make them run the extra drops. J In pretty much all our offices, the extra cost to run 2 drops at every station winds up being a total of a few hundred dollars tops. Essentially we’ve already sized things to use 2 drops so they have the switch ports, wiring labor is essentially the same, so the total cost is some extra wire (maybe, if they happen to use more than one box because of it) plus the extra connectors. Offices are usually less than 25 people so it’s basically a wash after they have any event that would have been avoided. -- There are 10 kinds of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 10:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] vlan on single port Melvin’s comments are good ones. I do know that higher-end Cisco and PolyCom phones don’t have those restrictions. “phone reset” causes loss of network connectivity for the PC – this is because of a PORT reset on the switch. Make sure the port is specified as a client port (“portfast” on Cisco) so that the port doesn’t participate in STP calculations. At least, this was true in my experience, your mileage may vary. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Melvin Backus Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 7:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] vlan on single port Mitel. Specifically the 5312 units. -- There are 10 kinds of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 9:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] vlan on single port Melvin, which brand of voip phones did you have this issue with? -- Espi On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 4:55 AM, Melvin Backus <[email protected]> wrote: Yes, it’s possible. I don’t recommend it however. There are a couple of common issues they will run into if they piggy back things. When the phone resets (for any reason) you’ll lose network connectivity on the PC. In some cases we see it actually cause a PC reboot which I’ve yet to understand, but it can be reproduced. On some (most?) phone sets, the network port is 100MB instead of GB, so you may end up restricting network throughput by doing this. Some phones have GB ports, normally the higher end ones, and that will obviously be equipment specific, but it’s something to watch for. -- There are 10 kinds of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of J- P Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 6:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NTSysADM] vlan on single port Hi all i have a client that is setting up a new office with voip and naturally I'm recomending seperate drops and a seperate switch (small office < 30 users) ,however , as most clients, they dont want spend anymore money than they have to, so they want to piggy back the computers to the phones ethernet port . Is it possible to vlan off the same drop/port ?
