I can only watch a train wreck for so long....  :)

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 2:41 PM Michael B. Smith <[email protected]>
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> That was the discussion I was trying to avoid having. J
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Don Ely
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 4:48 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] used/refurb/eol
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> The question isn't typically did you have a problem, the question is
> better phrased, is what I am doing legal?  I can download some Cisco stuff
> anytime I want, doesn't make it legal.  I can enable features on my
> Junipers without paying for a license too, pretty certain that is not ok
> either....
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> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:30 PM Jack Kramer <[email protected]> wrote:
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> I’ve never had an issue downloading firmware for SSG, SRX, and EX series
> products that were out of support. That’s one nice thing about Juniper.
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> On Aug 24, 2016, at 3:53 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Ah, yes. I forgot about firmware and smartnet. It's possible that Juniper
> has a similar policy, but I've also found that it's usually fairly
> inexpensive to bring Juniper under support, where as smartnet is painfully
> expensive.
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> Kurt
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> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> With Cisco, if you don’t have smartnet, you can’t legally get firmware
> updates.
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> If you look at Curvature’s support policy, it’s all about replacement
> hardware.
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> I don’t make comment about right/wrong/indifferent. That just has to
> figure into the company’s plans.
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *J- P
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 9:50 AM
> *To:* NT
> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] used/refurb/eol
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> Hi all,
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> I decided to start a new thread as this is no longer a suggestion or
> recommendation of brands,
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> As I mentioned in a previous thread, I service a company that uses only
> Cisco (and they have over 1000 centers), however, one thing I noticed is
> that they NEVER buy new, it is always used.
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> While I cannot mention the name of the company, I can mention the name of
> where they get the products from
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> https://www.curvature.com/
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> One thing I do like about them is that they offer an alternative to
> smartnet contract AND they support hardware after EOL
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> https://www.curvature.com/Services
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> I'm just wondering what is the consensus regarding this?
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> Jean-Paul Natola
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