Maintenance releases, yes.  The rest...  I'm no legal expert, but it would
appear that is frowned upon....  Too many words and I got tired of
reading...

http://www.juniper.net/support/eula.html



On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:18 PM Jack Kramer <[email protected]> wrote:

> As far as I know there are no issues on Juniper’s end with obtaining newer
> firmwares. All you need is an account on the support site and certification
> of US-based status for some of the cryptographic modules. Obviously use of
> the firmware is unsupported without an active support contract.
>
> On Aug 24, 2016, at 4:48 PM, Don Ely <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The question isn't typically did you have a problem, the question is
> better phrased, is what I am doing legal?  I can download some Cisco stuff
> anytime I want, doesn't make it legal.  I can enable features on my
> Junipers without paying for a license too, pretty certain that is not ok
> either....
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:30 PM Jack Kramer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I’ve never had an issue downloading firmware for SSG, SRX, and EX series
>> products that were out of support. That’s one nice thing about Juniper.
>>
>> On Aug 24, 2016, at 3:53 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Ah, yes. I forgot about firmware and smartnet. It's possible that Juniper
>> has a similar policy, but I've also found that it's usually fairly
>> inexpensive to bring Juniper under support, where as smartnet is painfully
>> expensive.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>> With Cisco, if you don’t have smartnet, you can’t legally get firmware
>>> updates.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you look at Curvature’s support policy, it’s all about replacement
>>> hardware.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don’t make comment about right/wrong/indifferent. That just has to
>>> figure into the company’s plans.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *J- P
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 9:50 AM
>>> *To:* NT
>>> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] used/refurb/eol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I decided to start a new thread as this is no longer a suggestion or
>>> recommendation of brands,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As I mentioned in a previous thread, I service a company that uses only
>>> Cisco (and they have over 1000 centers), however, one thing I noticed is
>>> that they NEVER buy new, it is always used.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> While I cannot mention the name of the company, I can mention the name
>>> of where they get the products from
>>>
>>> https://www.curvature.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> One thing I do like about them is that they offer an alternative to
>>> smartnet contract AND they support hardware after EOL
>>>
>>> https://www.curvature.com/Services
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm just wondering what is the consensus regarding this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jean-Paul Natola
>>>
>>>
>>

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