I had further discussion with them today.

The LOB is Timberline property management software, and they're
adamant about keeping it in-house. They were also set on Dell, so we
finally settled on a Dell T430, with an H330 RAID card, and two 1tb
NLSAS drives, and 16gb RAM. The Windows Essentials will come from
Amazon for a lot less than what Dell was charging - and they weren't
bundling Essentials with this machine anyway.

They have moved their email to gmail (which was news to me - last I
had heard from them they were still using their SBS 2003 Exchange).

They also wanted to keep their RD1000 unit for backups, which seemed
pretty reasonable - actually, they'll be getting a new RD1000 bundled
into the new machine, and probably keep the old one for an emergency
spare.

I'm going to turn that server into a combined AD/DNS/DHCP and file
server, and  I think I can convince them to keep their Timberline
software on a domain-joined Win10 machine - I just gives me the
shivers to install third party software on a DC.

I didn't save them much on pricing (maybe $100-200), but I think I got
them a much better machine.

And, as a followup, once they have ordered it and it's in house, I'll
be waling through their guy on setting it all up.

If I could, I'd virtualize it all, but doing that right would involve
two hosts, and more servers than they need, I think that it's pretty
good the way we went.

Kurt

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Susan E Bradley, CPA/CITP/CFF, GSEC
<[email protected]> wrote:
> What LOB needs do they have?  What storage?
>
> Premise peeps:  The Gen 10 Microserver doesn't have the fans it once had, my
> peeps are recommending HP ML110e
>
> Cloud peeps:  Do they really need a server or a rethinking of what they do
> needs to be done and office 365/mapped drive to Sharefile or Google drive
> would be a better plan going forward.  What LOB is keeping the need for the
> on premise server?
>
> These days, check that chip to see if it will get a spectre/meltdown patch.
>
>
> On 1/25/2018 8:18 AM, Rick Berry wrote:
>
> I'd suggest the consideration of something aftermarket as an option for them
> (since you said the words 'property management company' and having supported
> a few of those in the past I'll make crass generalizations about budget
> limitations/thriftiness)
>
> www.buysellservers.com  ... you can go build a 1U dell for instance with
> what you want in it (like a real RAID card) and also still get a
> drac/warranty/etc at aftermarket prices.
>
> We normally do new ourselves, but I'm also not against getting the
> occasional 1U 'a few years old but with a fresh warranty' dell for
> swiss-army-knife server basic stuff like a dc/dns/ad/dhcp box.
>
> So sometimes we'll grab something like an R420 poweredge and put a RAID card
> in it/drac it and even ESXi it to internal USB bootable for a few grand less
> than new (but still with new hd's)
>
> Just throwing it out there, I know folks sometimes cringe at the 'used'
> market but in certain situations it works.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 6:46 PM
> To: ntsysadm <[email protected]>
> Subject: [NTSysADM] Server build recommendation
>
> The owner of a small 5-6 person property management company has approached
> me to help acquire a new server. They're currently running a 10+yo machine
> with SBS 2003, and wish to replace it.
>
> They've migrated their email to gmail, so don't need exchange, but do want a
> DC for account management, DHCP/DNS, etc., so they're looking to go with
> Server Essentials.
>
> The fellow he's nominated at his firm to be their sysadmin is quite green,
> and got a quote from Dell for a tower box with a software RAID card, and I
> told them to hold off on that purchase, while I look at alternatives.
>
> I was leaning toward an HP Microserver, but haven't played with one in
> years, and it looks like the current generation is using an AMD processor,
> and doesn't come with a RAID card to support RAID1.
>
> Anyone have a recommendation they can make regarding hardware?
>
> Kurt
>
>
>


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