VMware really wants a DNS server at boot time. If your DNS server is a
VM on that host, it isn't there for VMware.

This is a problem, to say the least.

It's really the only reason why I have a DC on it's own physical host
in my server room.

Kurt

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 7:36 PM, Susan Bradley <[email protected]> wrote:
> Why two hosts?
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> On 1/25/2018 7:09 PM, Kurt Buff wrote:
>>
>> I had further discussion with them today.
>>
>> The LOB is Timberline property management software, and they're
>> adamant about keeping it in-house. They were also set on Dell, so we
>> finally settled on a Dell T430, with an H330 RAID card, and two 1tb
>> NLSAS drives, and 16gb RAM. The Windows Essentials will come from
>> Amazon for a lot less than what Dell was charging - and they weren't
>> bundling Essentials with this machine anyway.
>>
>> They have moved their email to gmail (which was news to me - last I
>> had heard from them they were still using their SBS 2003 Exchange).
>>
>> They also wanted to keep their RD1000 unit for backups, which seemed
>> pretty reasonable - actually, they'll be getting a new RD1000 bundled
>> into the new machine, and probably keep the old one for an emergency
>> spare.
>>
>> I'm going to turn that server into a combined AD/DNS/DHCP and file
>> server, and  I think I can convince them to keep their Timberline
>> software on a domain-joined Win10 machine - I just gives me the
>> shivers to install third party software on a DC.
>>
>> I didn't save them much on pricing (maybe $100-200), but I think I got
>> them a much better machine.
>>
>> And, as a followup, once they have ordered it and it's in house, I'll
>> be waling through their guy on setting it all up.
>>
>> If I could, I'd virtualize it all, but doing that right would involve
>> two hosts, and more servers than they need, I think that it's pretty
>> good the way we went.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Susan E Bradley, CPA/CITP/CFF, GSEC
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> What LOB needs do they have?  What storage?
>>>
>>> Premise peeps:  The Gen 10 Microserver doesn't have the fans it once had,
>>> my
>>> peeps are recommending HP ML110e
>>>
>>> Cloud peeps:  Do they really need a server or a rethinking of what they
>>> do
>>> needs to be done and office 365/mapped drive to Sharefile or Google drive
>>> would be a better plan going forward.  What LOB is keeping the need for
>>> the
>>> on premise server?
>>>
>>> These days, check that chip to see if it will get a spectre/meltdown
>>> patch.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/25/2018 8:18 AM, Rick Berry wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd suggest the consideration of something aftermarket as an option for
>>> them
>>> (since you said the words 'property management company' and having
>>> supported
>>> a few of those in the past I'll make crass generalizations about budget
>>> limitations/thriftiness)
>>>
>>> www.buysellservers.com  ... you can go build a 1U dell for instance with
>>> what you want in it (like a real RAID card) and also still get a
>>> drac/warranty/etc at aftermarket prices.
>>>
>>> We normally do new ourselves, but I'm also not against getting the
>>> occasional 1U 'a few years old but with a fresh warranty' dell for
>>> swiss-army-knife server basic stuff like a dc/dns/ad/dhcp box.
>>>
>>> So sometimes we'll grab something like an R420 poweredge and put a RAID
>>> card
>>> in it/drac it and even ESXi it to internal USB bootable for a few grand
>>> less
>>> than new (but still with new hd's)
>>>
>>> Just throwing it out there, I know folks sometimes cringe at the 'used'
>>> market but in certain situations it works.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 6:46 PM
>>> To: ntsysadm <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: [NTSysADM] Server build recommendation
>>>
>>> The owner of a small 5-6 person property management company has
>>> approached
>>> me to help acquire a new server. They're currently running a 10+yo
>>> machine
>>> with SBS 2003, and wish to replace it.
>>>
>>> They've migrated their email to gmail, so don't need exchange, but do
>>> want a
>>> DC for account management, DHCP/DNS, etc., so they're looking to go with
>>> Server Essentials.
>>>
>>> The fellow he's nominated at his firm to be their sysadmin is quite
>>> green,
>>> and got a quote from Dell for a tower box with a software RAID card, and
>>> I
>>> told them to hold off on that purchase, while I look at alternatives.
>>>
>>> I was leaning toward an HP Microserver, but haven't played with one in
>>> years, and it looks like the current generation is using an AMD
>>> processor,
>>> and doesn't come with a RAID card to support RAID1.
>>>
>>> Anyone have a recommendation they can make regarding hardware?
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>>
>>>
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