I'm not sure who told you that, I have several setups where the DNS server is on the esxi host, including the actual firewall which performs routing and provides all network access as well...
> -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 9:29 PM > To: ntsysadm <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Server build recommendation > > VMware really wants a DNS server at boot time. If your DNS server is a > VM on that host, it isn't there for VMware. > > This is a problem, to say the least. > > It's really the only reason why I have a DC on it's own physical host > in my server room. > > Kurt > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 7:36 PM, Susan Bradley <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Why two hosts? > > > > > > > > > > On 1/25/2018 7:09 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > >> > >> I had further discussion with them today. > >> > >> The LOB is Timberline property management software, and they're > >> adamant about keeping it in-house. They were also set on Dell, so we > >> finally settled on a Dell T430, with an H330 RAID card, and two 1tb > >> NLSAS drives, and 16gb RAM. The Windows Essentials will come from > >> Amazon for a lot less than what Dell was charging - and they weren't > >> bundling Essentials with this machine anyway. > >> > >> They have moved their email to gmail (which was news to me - last I > >> had heard from them they were still using their SBS 2003 Exchange). > >> > >> They also wanted to keep their RD1000 unit for backups, which seemed > >> pretty reasonable - actually, they'll be getting a new RD1000 bundled > >> into the new machine, and probably keep the old one for an emergency > >> spare. > >> > >> I'm going to turn that server into a combined AD/DNS/DHCP and file > >> server, and I think I can convince them to keep their Timberline > >> software on a domain-joined Win10 machine - I just gives me the > >> shivers to install third party software on a DC. > >> > >> I didn't save them much on pricing (maybe $100-200), but I think I got > >> them a much better machine. > >> > >> And, as a followup, once they have ordered it and it's in house, I'll > >> be waling through their guy on setting it all up. > >> > >> If I could, I'd virtualize it all, but doing that right would involve > >> two hosts, and more servers than they need, I think that it's pretty > >> good the way we went. > >> > >> Kurt > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Susan E Bradley, CPA/CITP/CFF, GSEC > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> What LOB needs do they have? What storage? > >>> > >>> Premise peeps: The Gen 10 Microserver doesn't have the fans it once > had, > >>> my > >>> peeps are recommending HP ML110e > >>> > >>> Cloud peeps: Do they really need a server or a rethinking of what they > >>> do > >>> needs to be done and office 365/mapped drive to Sharefile or Google > drive > >>> would be a better plan going forward. What LOB is keeping the need for > >>> the > >>> on premise server? > >>> > >>> These days, check that chip to see if it will get a spectre/meltdown > >>> patch. > >>> > >>> > >>> On 1/25/2018 8:18 AM, Rick Berry wrote: > >>> > >>> I'd suggest the consideration of something aftermarket as an option for > >>> them > >>> (since you said the words 'property management company' and having > >>> supported > >>> a few of those in the past I'll make crass generalizations about budget > >>> limitations/thriftiness) > >>> > >>> www.buysellservers.com ... you can go build a 1U dell for instance with > >>> what you want in it (like a real RAID card) and also still get a > >>> drac/warranty/etc at aftermarket prices. > >>> > >>> We normally do new ourselves, but I'm also not against getting the > >>> occasional 1U 'a few years old but with a fresh warranty' dell for > >>> swiss-army-knife server basic stuff like a dc/dns/ad/dhcp box. > >>> > >>> So sometimes we'll grab something like an R420 poweredge and put a > RAID > >>> card > >>> in it/drac it and even ESXi it to internal USB bootable for a few grand > >>> less > >>> than new (but still with new hd's) > >>> > >>> Just throwing it out there, I know folks sometimes cringe at the 'used' > >>> market but in certain situations it works. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [email protected] > >>> [mailto:[email protected]] > >>> On Behalf Of Kurt Buff > >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 6:46 PM > >>> To: ntsysadm <[email protected]> > >>> Subject: [NTSysADM] Server build recommendation > >>> > >>> The owner of a small 5-6 person property management company has > >>> approached > >>> me to help acquire a new server. They're currently running a 10+yo > >>> machine > >>> with SBS 2003, and wish to replace it. > >>> > >>> They've migrated their email to gmail, so don't need exchange, but do > >>> want a > >>> DC for account management, DHCP/DNS, etc., so they're looking to go > with > >>> Server Essentials. > >>> > >>> The fellow he's nominated at his firm to be their sysadmin is quite > >>> green, > >>> and got a quote from Dell for a tower box with a software RAID card, and > >>> I > >>> told them to hold off on that purchase, while I look at alternatives. > >>> > >>> I was leaning toward an HP Microserver, but haven't played with one in > >>> years, and it looks like the current generation is using an AMD > >>> processor, > >>> and doesn't come with a RAID card to support RAID1. > >>> > >>> Anyone have a recommendation they can make regarding hardware? > >>> > >>> Kurt > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > >
