OK if the apps is hosted on the internet, is it safe to assume it's a
web-based application? If so, it probably invokes Java on the
workstation to do some of its function. Java, Unfortuntely, is a
notorious PIG of an application, which could be leading to some of your
application issues ( especially if the code being called within the web
session and interacting with the java instance to do its bidding isn't
optimized) 

You can look at the web-traffic happening on a client by using the
FIDDLER HTTP Debugging Browser plugin for IE/Firefox, 

www.fiddler2.com

Which if it's a web application will let you know exactly what is
happening in the browser, and the response from the server ( or if you
are seeing 400x or 500x errors ( Client side and Server side issues)

The other thing you will probably want to put on a representative
workstation is Wireshark, and do a sniff while you are working with the
web application, and see if you are getting timeouts, a high number of
retransmissions, or resets ( which means you got congestion, bandwidth
issues, drive issues, packet loss etc etc, that you need to deal with at
Layer 2-3, before you really see what is happening at layer 7)

Also the thing you really need to see is what the traffic metrics and
types for what is coming in and out of the internet pipe ( maybe using
NTOP or other bandwidth analysis tools) which could give some insight
about the traffic types, and the source IP's. Could be a lot of
bit-torrent activity or dropbox, or Audit Streaming, or Malicious
malware based traffic ( someone is using you as a amplifying site, or
with Skype you might have just become a SUPERNODE and others are pointed
your way which you might not know)

Again a lot of possibilities, I am sure these aren't the only things you
could look at but it's a good start. 

Z


Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:[email protected]
Cell:401-639-3505



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: strange hosted app issue

Finding this issue to be a bit perplexing.

Have an application that is hosted on the internet.  App uses a java
interface run on the client machines (both PC and Mac and even iPads).
The
app sometimes takes forever to load up and users often get booted from
it
during normal use of the app (if they can even get into the app).  Using
the hosted app off-hours never shows any slowness.

The internet pipe is 10mb up/down.  Their doesn't SEEM to be an issue
with
bandwidth conjestion, but we're still determining that (customer had NO
tools in place to monitor that traffic - live).  When people are having
problems running that application, they can still browse anything else
on
the internet without problem -- which makes it seem like bandwidth isn't
an
issue, possibly. 

The customer even tried swapping out to a different firewall for test
purposes, and completely removing the web filter too.  Neither helped.

Aside from bandwidth, is there anything else worth looking at here?
Something overlooked?  App provider isn't helpful as the site in quetion
is
the only place experiecing the issue it seems.  Perhaps trying a
different
java version, etc.?  Grasping straws.  Thanks!


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