Last $dayjob$ we needed to rebuild the entire infrastructure for
networking.  At the time we had cat 3, cat4, cat5, and coax (thicknet) in
the walls.  Some of the cat3 was shorted most of the cat4 was causing
issues as well but functioned to some degree and the cat5 was laid accross
lighting so that the best speed was in places 10 half.  When we did the
rebuild we opted to install 3 cat6 runs per drop with most offices getting
at least 2 different drops and some 3.  A lot of wire to be installed but
it paid for itself when we replaced the phone system about a month later.
Having multiple drops in the office allowed staff to reconfigure their
office space and I only had to change a jumper cable in the rack and
everything went live again.  The biggest hassle was getting people to give
the installers the time to tear up the ceiling in their office to get the
drops in.  Phones ran on dedicated wire but shared switches.  If needed we
could plug machines into phones to get another staffer temporary access in
an office.  Since about half the staff were on laptops and about half of
them sometimes working in 2 or 3 member teams in the same office we rarely
ran into network issues after the upgrade.  We had more problems with
staffers insisting on bridging our public and private networks.  Public was
wireless, private was wired.

Jon


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:[email protected]]

> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 10:11 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT - Phone System In A Virtual Machine
>
> We manage to run switch to phone to desktop without any problems at all of
> our clients.  We've never run cable just for phones. YMMV, but we never
> have problems.  Of course that assumes you are using a well optimized codec
> for voice.
>
> Bill
>
>
> James Kerr wrote:
> > Yeah, if we go VOIP we will be running a new CAT6 infrastructure just
> > for the phones and perform lots of testing before we cut over.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Jonathan Bible <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >     I am surprised no one has mentioned ShoreTel. It is supported on
> >     VMware 4.0. Just remember when you add VOIP to your network it
> >     will expose your latency and misconfigurations because missing 3
> >     seconds of voice is critical and an email will go unnoticed. VOIP
> >     is like the canary in the mine. It dies first and gets all the
> >     blame.  ShoreTel is designed from the IT prospective and is easy
> >     to manage.
> >
> >
> >     On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 4:48 PM, James Kerr <[email protected]
> >     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >         I've thought about hosted solutions also but we are currently
> >         locked into contracts for our PRI's. This will be an
> >         interesting venture that's for sure.
> >
> >         James
> >
> >
> >         On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Stu Sjouwerman
> >         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> >         wrote:
> >
> >             James,
> >
> >
> >
> >             I went through that whole exercise a year ago, and decided
> >             for VOIP, but running it
> >
> >             In the Cloud as opposed to in-house.  RingCentral gives
> >             you an enormous amount of
> >
> >             features for about 20 bucks per person per month,
> >             unlimited phone minutes.  If you
> >
> >             absolutely want to run it in-house, a dedicated server
> >             with Asterisk would be a good
> >
> >             idea.  VOIP is sensitive to a bunch of things, you need to
> >             spec out the hardware
> >
> >             correctly.
> >
> >
> >             Warm regards,
> >
> >
> >
> >             Stu
> >
> >
> >
> >             *From:* James Kerr [mailto:[email protected]
> >             <mailto:[email protected]>]
> >
> >             *Sent:* Tuesday, November 08, 2011 8:57 AM
> >             *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> >             *Subject:* OT - Phone System In A Virtual Machine
> >
> >
> >
> >             We are looking at replacing our phone system. This has got
> >             me thinking about VIOP systems and being a sys admin who
> >             maintains our current phone system (for the most part) has
> >             got me thinking about phone system redundancy. I have a
> >             desire to run a voice-mail and PBX on virtual machines, if
> >             possible. I just don't know if such things exist and was
> >             wondering if any of you guys had any info about such
> >             systems. We have about 150 phones in two locations two
> >             PBXs and one central voice-mail/auto attendant. Venders
> >             I've spoke with so far just want to offer newer versions
> >             of what we already have. I want something more redundant
> >             and easier to bring up again in case of disaster. Thanks
> >             for any replies.
> >
> >             James
> >
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