Yeah, if your existing wiring is in disarray it completely makes sense
and is probably necessary for any sort of VOIP to work well. And the
way you did it sounds right.
I was just pointing out to the OP that they could consider saving money
and not rewiring with some solutions.
I'm a consultant in the SMB, rather than enterprise arena (which this
list skews toward). Sometimes, it is a totally different world view.
If I can walk into a business with 50 users and tell the owner that I
can update their ancient phonesystem with a new VOIP based on asterisk
that will only cost them $6k for the server, $100 bucks a handset, and
provide them all kinds of bells and whistles like personal conference
room numbers for every employee, voicemail to email attachments,
forwarding to cell phones, all kinds of IVR customizations, etc, etc
with no licensing fees and utilize their existing wiring...then I might
save that client a ton of money compared to what the telco company guys
are trying to sell him. And I'll probably have that client for a long time.
Bill
Jon Harris wrote:
Last $dayjob$ we needed to rebuild the entire infrastructure for
networking. At the time we had cat 3, cat4, cat5, and coax (thicknet)
in the walls. Some of the cat3 was shorted most of the cat4 was
causing issues as well but functioned to some degree and the cat5 was
laid accross lighting so that the best speed was in places 10 half.
When we did the rebuild we opted to install 3 cat6 runs per drop with
most offices getting at least 2 different drops and some 3. A lot of
wire to be installed but it paid for itself when we replaced the phone
system about a month later. Having multiple drops in the office
allowed staff to reconfigure their office space and I only had to
change a jumper cable in the rack and everything went live again. The
biggest hassle was getting people to give the installers the time to
tear up the ceiling in their office to get the drops in. Phones ran
on dedicated wire but shared switches. If needed we could plug
machines into phones to get another staffer temporary access in an
office. Since about half the staff were on laptops and about half of
them sometimes working in 2 or 3 member teams in the same office we
rarely ran into network issues after the upgrade. We had more
problems with staffers insisting on bridging our public and private
networks. Public was wireless, private was wired.
Jon
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 10:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - Phone System In A Virtual Machine
We manage to run switch to phone to desktop without any problems
at all of our clients. We've never run cable just for phones.
YMMV, but we never have problems. Of course that assumes you are
using a well optimized codec for voice.
Bill
James Kerr wrote:
> Yeah, if we go VOIP we will be running a new CAT6 infrastructure
just
> for the phones and perform lots of testing before we cut over.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Jonathan Bible
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>
> I am surprised no one has mentioned ShoreTel. It is supported on
> VMware 4.0. Just remember when you add VOIP to your network it
> will expose your latency and misconfigurations because missing 3
> seconds of voice is critical and an email will go unnoticed.
VOIP
> is like the canary in the mine. It dies first and gets all the
> blame. ShoreTel is designed from the IT prospective and is easy
> to manage.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 4:48 PM, James Kerr
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
wrote:
>
> I've thought about hosted solutions also but we are
currently
> locked into contracts for our PRI's. This will be an
> interesting venture that's for sure.
>
> James
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Stu Sjouwerman
> <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
> wrote:
>
> James,
>
>
>
> I went through that whole exercise a year ago, and
decided
> for VOIP, but running it
>
> In the Cloud as opposed to in-house. RingCentral gives
> you an enormous amount of
>
> features for about 20 bucks per person per month,
> unlimited phone minutes. If you
>
> absolutely want to run it in-house, a dedicated server
> with Asterisk would be a good
>
> idea. VOIP is sensitive to a bunch of things, you
need to
> spec out the hardware
>
> correctly.
>
>
> Warm regards,
>
>
>
> Stu
>
>
>
> *From:* James Kerr [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>]
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 08, 2011 8:57 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OT - Phone System In A Virtual Machine
>
>
>
> We are looking at replacing our phone system. This
has got
> me thinking about VIOP systems and being a sys admin who
> maintains our current phone system (for the most
part) has
> got me thinking about phone system redundancy. I have a
> desire to run a voice-mail and PBX on virtual
machines, if
> possible. I just don't know if such things exist and was
> wondering if any of you guys had any info about such
> systems. We have about 150 phones in two locations two
> PBXs and one central voice-mail/auto attendant. Venders
> I've spoke with so far just want to offer newer versions
> of what we already have. I want something more redundant
> and easier to bring up again in case of disaster. Thanks
> for any replies.
>
> James
>
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