My 0.02 ...

I'm getting bids myself; the owners have always gone cheap and so far I have a 
little 'room a/c' unit that I had to rig up with my own insulated pipe to 
exhaust the hot air into the return air plenum (i.e. above the drop ceiling 
tiles).

Full rack, about 10K BTU's, 18k if you include the fridge and coffee pot.  Yea, 
not my choice.

Movincool has a unit that looks pretty easy to install, but so far all of the 
installers want MORE money than the unit costs to lift it up above the ceiling 
tiles and hookup the 2 ducts to the room.

Here's the Movincool:

http://www.movincool.com/portable-air-conditioner/cm25.php

The price is pretty similar to the comparable Liebert (Emerson power) unit 
though, so we'll probably go with Liebert.

Building A/C is usually just about enough (room is about 70-80 during the 
week), but on the weekend they shut it off.

We exploded a can of soda in the room once:

One can in the 6 pack spewed and knocked the 6 pack off. Not sure if it 
exploded on the rack or when it hit the floor.  Yea, we have office supplies in 
there too.

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From: Greg Olson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 1:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server room cooling units

+1
Have 12 10ton Liebert units in various locations and I've only had one unit 
fail in 10 years time.
I'd fire that service company. We do have quarterly maintance checks we do 
(change filters, etc) and bi-annually have preventive maintance from our 
service provider.


From: Mark Boeck 
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Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 1:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server room cooling units

We have 1 Liebert, and in 6 years it's only down for scheduled maintenance...
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Kevin Lundy 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Ironically, we have had minimal issues with our 2 8 year old Lieberts.  Here in 
Florida, they run almost 24x7.

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Bob Fronk 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
We can count on our Leibert(s) having problems shortly after any preventive 
maintenance.  It is a running joke with the service company.

BF

From: Stu Sjouwerman 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 5:13 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server room cooling units

We used Liebert at Sunbelt, but had regular outages with it, make sure that the 
company you buy from understand the concept of "preventive maintenance"

Warm regards,
Stu

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Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Server room cooling units


Greetings!

Currently, I have two HVAC bids regarding the expansion of our server room.  
(It will seem strange to have that room below 80 degrees, and I am not kidding 
with that number!).

We have two proposals and with two different units, both 15 tons.  One is by 
Stulz, and one is by Liebert.

Anyone care to offer their opinions/experiences/etc on the advantages one has 
over the other?

Thank you...
--
Richard D. McClary
Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group
ASPCA(r)
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
Urbana, IL  61802


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