Snippet from a support case I had opened with them for my one and only
attempt at deploying SEP at one of our clients:

" Our product - Symantec Endpoint Protection - alone requires a server
with 2GB of memory to run the following software as part of an embedded
database install of SEPM: The Server OS, SEPM Manager Console, Sybase
Embedded Database. Additional software would require more memory. If
BackupExec was previously installed, this would have put an even greater
load on the server."

After that I told them to close the case and informed them that we will
be migrating all our clients using Symantec products to something else
as soon as their current contracts expire.  The previous versions were
pigs - this thing is friggin' herd of elephants.  About half of our
clients are still on Symantec and all of them will be done with it by
mid-year.  How that company keeps making the so called 'best of breed'
lists is beyond me...

Regards,
Amer Karim
Nautilis Information Systems

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Songstad (WCUL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23-Jan-08 6:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Latest antivirus test results from Andreas Marx in XLS
format

That's better, that's the Symantec I know so well. Its nice to know that
some things never change...

Bill Songstad



-----Original Message-----
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Latest antivirus test results from Andreas Marx in XLS
format

I've heard much more bad things than good.  Which is depressing, since
Im stil slated to have to install it myself.  Here's a bit of a
posting from a local Boston-area UG withing the past 24 hours:

Subject: [...] TechTips:  Anyone been using Symantec EndPoint
Protection?
Msg Body: I have been a bit so far... What a POS...  So far, it has
taken down a DC, installed some firewall called "Network Threat
Protection" (even when you don't want it to), and magically
overwritten its own policies (which are managed from a centralized
server).  My favorite feature of the "Network Threat Prevention" is
that it seemingly cuts off access to those pesky network shares. Oyyy.

Follup up from OP:  Oyyyy..... Amazingly, the product deployed OK in my
test environment... Ugh...

Reply: Oyyy is right, didn't you see my rant last week on Endpoint? :-P

Replier's post from previous week: We had deployed Endpoint to a
couple of our customers, then a week later we were back to remove it.
It is a huge pig. It slowed down the servers and the network. It
downloaded many GB of "Updates" to the C: drive which filled the HDD
in a couple days. (even though it was installed on a different drive.
There are some docs on how to tell it to move some of the updates to a
different drive, but it doesn't do all of it). We rolled these
customers back to SAV Corp 10.2. After doing some research on the web,
we found this was a common complaint.



On Jan 23, 2008 4:50 PM, Bill Songstad (WCUL)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's too bad that system footprint wasn't measured.  That would have
> changed things around a bit.  But maybe the new Symantec product is
> improved over their previous offerings.  They're going to have to show
> up as best in show quite a bit more often to win my business back
> though.
>
> Bill Songstad
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Latest antivirus test results from Andreas Marx in XLS
> format
>
> I'm a little surprised that Symantec DID make it into that group.
>
> Ben M. Schorr
> Chief Executive Officer
> ______________________________________________
> Roland Schorr & Tower
> www.rolandschorr.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:17 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Latest antivirus test results from Andreas Marx in XLS
> format
>
> Unremarkably, its a 4-way tie (based on average marks) between:
>
> AntiVir
> F-Secure
> Symantec
> Trend Micro
>
>
> Converting the chart to a scale of 1-5; each of the above vendors
> scored a 4.4 average.
>
> I find it hard to beleive that NOD32 didnt make it into that group.
> Based on my own prior testing, I'm very surprised.
>
>
> On Jan 23, 2008 2:55 PM, Sam Cayze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > For those that don't read SunBelt's Blog, Alex shared a very nice
> AntiVirus
> > comparison Report made by Andreas Marx of Av-Test.org
> >
> > I thought it was neat/interesting.
> >
> >
>
http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/latest-antivirus-test-results-fr
> om.html
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> >
> >
> > The file in XLS, easier to read than the PDF:
> >
>
http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/latest-antivirus-test-results-fr
> om_23.html
> >
> >
> >
> > -Sam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Sauvigne, Craig M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:48 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Computer forensics training
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I am looking into computer forensics training to better assist in
> computer
> > crime issues with our campus police department. I am looking to
learn
> things
> > such as data recovery from formatted media to tracking emails to
> recovering
> > web browsing history and everything else I can learn. I know how to
do
> some
> > of these things to a certain degree but would really like to get
more
> in
> > depth and formal training.
> >
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know of a good company that trains in this area? I
prefer
> > classroom training to online but would work with online. I have
found
> a few
> > by searching online but I would like to get opinions from some
people
> who
> > have taken similar training and can recommend places based on
> firsthand
> > knowledge.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > ====================
> >
> > Craig M. Sauvigne
> >
> > System Administrator
> >
> > Winthrop University
> >
> > Rock Hill, SC 29733
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > SC143
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