I had been trying to avoid a blog for a long time because a lot of people
end up blogging about the weather and funny things their cat does and I
didn't want to turn into one of those people for the same reasons I don't
like watching TV. But alas I made a new year's resolution to get off my bum
and finally create a blog to have an answer for everyone I run into at
conferences. Will be live on marcmaiffret.com next week, and probably look
about as ugly as the current page. :-) 

You could probably link to the email in the sunbelt mail archive (if there
is one) or otherwise go ahead and copy and paste away, there are no lawyers
in this house.

-Marc

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Gmail in the workplace

I can assure that at least the Exchange MVPs have seen the writing on the
wall.

Microsoft has increased the "cost of entry" to Exchange 2007. Not for the
basic features - the cost is the same for those, except for hardware
replacement. But to use the more advanced capabilities - the need for true
administration and cost of the feature content has increased. We've
discussed this quite a bit among ourselves.

In the short term, there is also no question that based on the
cost-benefit-ratio associated with Exchange (and unified communications in
general) that Microsoft is driving small business to hosted Exchange and to
Microsoft Live, depending on the feature set the business requires. I've
written several articles on this, from a forward looking perspective. I've
not been as quite hardcore as you are below!

In the short-term for medium business, I'm not sure MSFT has decided
themselves. Centro is great. Exchange is an integral piece of that product.

In the long-term, well, I can't say. 

Good post. Have you blogged it? I'd like to link to it. :-)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 4:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Gmail in the workplace

I figured we would have more emails like this by now but I guess Google Apps
and Windows Live are walking instead of running.

The reality is that a lot of people who depend on Microsoft and small
business consulting are going to slowly see a drop in the requirements (time
you can bill for) in consulting and maintaining SMB organizations. That is
the one thing that Microsoft does not tell all of its die hard MVP's about
as it relates to its Microsoft Live initiatives.

In order for Microsoft Live to be successful it means creating a web
business infrastructure that an average joe business guy can use himself,
self maintaining system etc... It cannot be said any more clearly than for
Microsoft Live business services to be successful they must make the need
for companies like g2support to be extremely minimal. I know that sounds
harsh but if you talk with the business folks at Microsoft Live, look at
their product strategy and how they measure success, it simply is this way.
 
If Microsoft is successful then the idea of selling, setting up, and
supporting a company with SBS or Exchange and whatever else is going to be a
thing of the past. Obviously there will still be network maintenance and
what not but even things like backup will soon be nicely rolled into
Microsoft and Google online services therefore not requiring companies like
yours to do it for people. Again I am not trying to be harsh but realistic
about what is coming, or at least what Microsoft and Google would like to
have.

See at the end of the day when your consulting at a place like a small
mortgage company the reality is that that mortgage company does not want to
have to bother with you or any of the other hassles of technology. They just
want to deal with mortgages as that is how they make money. So if they can
get a hassle free (as MS and Google market it) solution that is also cheaper
than what you are charging them then they are all for it. And Microsoft and
Google obviously look at it as new revenue streams and while some people
might think "but they wouldn't put me out of business I've been a loyal bla
bla bla" ... well it's just business and the current idea of both the small
mortgage company and Microsoft/Google is that companies like yours do not
need to be part of the equation as it is cheaper for the mortgage company
and new money for Microsoft/Google.

Change is coming, and a lot of it, and if I was a company that has been
capitalizing off of SMB IT management of Windows environments I would start
thinking about the future, the changing landscape, and new ways to generate
revenue. Again I don't think it is going to happen tomorrow so I am not
shouting fire or trying to sound scary. But it is coming and you should
definitely be forward thinking about it as Oliver is doing here.

Of course the rate at which this change comes will depend on the technology
progress that Google and Microsoft make. Right now Google Apps is pretty
weak and simply an email system with not much else. Microsoft's offering has
a bit more bells and whistles but that is just because they are giving you a
hosted SharePoint system on top of email and they tailored some of the
SharePoint functionality to give the appearance of their solution having
more meat than it really does.

Now of course one man's downside is another man's upside.... there is a lot
of money to be made in this new world that is on its way if you adapt
yourself. At the end of the day people will pay you to help make them more
money or streamline their business, which helps make them more money. And as
I said there are a lot of things lacking with Microsoft Live and Google Apps
and the right minded people could capitalize a lot on those lacking features
and functions. Such as helping that mortgage company have better integration
between their Microsoft Live service and salesforce.com or whatever else
comes to mind.

I know that this does not answer your original question but that is because
I think you are asking the wrong question[s]. In business if you are not a
company that can affect change then you should strive to embrace it. I have
seen more companies fail because of lack of fluidity than anything else.
While you can get some short term mileage out of learning how to sell people
on SBS, even though the market is moving towards Google Apps and Microsoft
Live, you will suffer in the long run. So get the team together for a brain
storming session, and get the google alerts going for Google Apps and
Windows Live to start learning about what others are doing to capitalize and
adapt.

-Marc Maiffret
www.marcmaiffret.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 12:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [OT] Gmail in the workplace

Hi chaps,

We are seeing a rise in the number of clients (current and/or possibles)
that are looking at using gmail as their main busy email provision. Now,
we mainly deal with web companies, and one thing we have noticed is that
'2.0' companies just aren't swayed by the usual feature set of SBS 2003.
Typically a lot of the sales parabola is met by a round of 'we don't
really work that way' etc. For the most part, the only thing that really
picks up ears is when we start discussing ownership of data, and being
able to manage that data when faced with an increasing amount of
freelancers.

With the increase of the 'starbucks' approach to business, and an ever
increasing number of freelancers, small non-traditional businesses seem
to really struggle with the concept of non-web-centric information
stores like and SBS 2003 server, linked to something affordable like an
adsl line; take in to account the cost of CALs, support, maintenance etc
they tend to stick with the free-web based services that they have
'grown' up with.

Really, I thought I would ask people here, particularly those focusing
on the Sme market (note the big S small ME), what you feel about this,
how you counter peoples believe in gmail as a business tool, whether you
even counter it at all...etc.

Olly

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