I hadn't heard of Microsoft DPM until Tobie mentioned it. As we get significant discounts on MS products I will certainly look into that further.
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]> wrote: > Frankly, while it is good to have as many backups as possible for a given > scenario, having to manage 4+ backup applications seems like a lot of > overhead. > > I'd argue that with too many ways to backup, it is easy to miss the fact > that something is not being backed up at all. > > What you might want to consider, rather than looking for a tool, is to > identify the types of backups you want to have for different classes of > systems, and the associated retention for those systems. > > Then, once you have that all mapped out so that it covers that potential > failure points that the business needs to address, then you should look at > which combination of tools and products will cover your bases for you. > > UltraBac and Microsoft DPM are very good products that might actually > address some aspect of your strategy, but I'd start with an complete > outline of the desired strategy which addresses known/anticipated problems, > then go from there. > > * * > > *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of > Technology for the SMB market… > > * > > > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 4:02 PM, James Kerr <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The data loss occurred in a VM. The first problem occurred when the VM >> was reverted back to a much earlier (human error). The second problem was >> that the VM was not being backed up at all. We are not sure if it was ever >> working from the get go or if backup exec just decided not to back it up >> anymore, our backups only go back 1 month at the moment but we are going to >> start adding monthly backups also. The other issue is not having a >> scheduled time in which to check our backups in detail to determine if they >> are backing up everything they are expected to backup and being overwhelmed >> with work and not taking the time to do so. We need to come up with a >> procedure for making sure things are getting backed up, an ability to test >> our backups with restores on a recurring basis. We also need to reach out >> to management about the volume of work and their expectations from our IT >> team. >> >> I would also like to add additional layers to our backup stratagy to try >> to mitigate a problem in one layer caused by either computer or human error >> so we have other options available to us in case something like this >> happens again in the future. >> >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> The question I would have before looking at what to add/replace, is >>> "What failed in the current backup process, and why?" >>> >>> This is the best (or, at least, the preferred) starting point for >>> determining what new/better solution to implement and what old solution to >>> augment or retire. >>> >>> * * >>> >>> *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of >>> Technology for the SMB market… >>> >>> * >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 3:17 PM, James Kerr <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> In light of a recent issue in which we had some data loss at *%dayjob%*and >>>> a very expensive and ongoing recovery effort, I need to add more layers >>>> to our DR policies and procedures going forward. Due the data loss and its >>>> affect, I will have more backing ($) to get something more robust >>>> implemented. Currently we backup everything to tape with Backup Exec and we >>>> backup some data to disk based storage on a storage server for added >>>> redundancy and speedy file restores. We backup our SQL databases by having >>>> SQL's backup function create backup files to a folder and those files are >>>> backed up to tape also. >>>> >>>> I would like to add online backup to the mix as well and I was >>>> wondering what peoples thoughts and recommendations were on that keeping in >>>> mind that our data contains personal health information so it needs to be >>>> HIPAA compliant. >>>> >>>> We currently use SyncBack Pro to copy data from a remote office to a >>>> server at our main office where it is backed up to tape. I would like >>>> something a little more enterprise and idealy something that synchronizes >>>> real time. We used to use Replication Exec for this but it is no longer >>>> available and hasn't been for some time. >>>> >>>> I was also thinking about image based backups. Some of the functions of >>>> Ultrabac look enticing. Anybody using that? >>>> >>>> We are backing up files, SQL databases, Hyper-v VMs and an Exchange >>>> server. I was also thinking about proceedures where by we check at a >>>> regularly scheduled intervals to make sure our backups are actually backing >>>> up correctly other then recieving an email saying it was successful. We >>>> currently do this but it's on an adhoc basis, when we have time sort of >>>> thing. We also need the ability to actually test our backups from time to >>>> time and an environment with which to do this and I would love to hear some >>>> feedback regarding this, well all of this. It's been a trying couple of >>>> weeks and the last 6 months or so have been very hectic which is partially >>>> resonsible for the loss we have experienced. 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