> * License fees -- There are much better products available, for free

Before you jump on the "mailman is better" bandwagon, there may be features of 
Lyris which does make it superior to other solutions. Perhaps is has an 
excellent reporting feature. Maybe it's really easy to setup and administer. 
I've seen emails of mine not ever get to the list, so maybe it has some very 
intelligent filtering. (I hope that's why it drops some of my emails!)

One of the reasons why Open Source software is so important is that it raises 
the bar of what is minimally acceptable. An open source solution does not have 
any "per message" limitation. Thus, nobody should have to deal with one. If 
Lyris is limiting, they have no excuse on why, unless it's being hosted 
somewhere and that's how they limit bandwidth.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


----- Original Message -----
From: Ben Scott
[mailto:[email protected]]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Fri, 27 Jan 2012
10:55:45 -0800
Subject: Re: List response time is abysmal


> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Kevin Lundy <[email protected]> wrote:
> > That said, I think we all need to remember this is a free service being
> > offered by Sunbelt/GFI that has a direct expense to them (Lyris, servers,
> < bandwidth aren't free).
> 
>   I think one of the points being made here is that Lyris is likely
> costing them much more than it should.
> 
> * License fees -- There are much better products available, for free
> * Server resources -- Having mail backed up like this compounds loading
> effects
> * Bandwidth -- Those redundant replies you mention
> * Discontent -- People get annoyed and go elsewhere
> * Reputation -- "GFI makes mail software and they can't even run a list?"
> * Advertising -- Lyris archives don't index on the web, so all those
> hits that could be pulling up GFI pages are going to mail-archive.com
> and maybe seeing their competitor's ads
> * Support costs -- Lyris apparently needs more care-and-feeding than
> other products
> 
>   I'd also guess that a GNU Mailman system is less resource inventive
> than a Lyris system, although if they don't already have a public *nix
> host that equation gets rather more complicated.
> 
>   There are "virtual appliances" -- virtual machines where you can
> just download a pre-configured disk image, drop it in place, and
> you're up and running in minutes.  I bet there are GNU Mailman virtual
> appliances out there.
> 
> -- Ben
> 
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