Don't remember, sorry. On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 20:56, Erik Goldoff <[email protected]> wrote: > do you remember what version of ePO ? The 3.6 and earlier IIRC were MMC > based, and 4.0 and later (VirusScan 8.5 and newer) were java based. > Somewhat different animals. > > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:48 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> We found that it didn't actually push the clients out as we wanted - >> it was quite erratic, and would fail more often than we could tolerate >> - and was *very* slow to update client definitions. >> >> The interface was not intuitive, either. >> >> It's been about 3 years since I worked with it, so it might have >> gotten better, but I still won't recommend it. >> >> Kurt >> >> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 18:13, Mathew Shember >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Really? >> > >> > We found ePO rather easy. What problems did you have with it? >> > >> > Vipre wasn't available back then so they went with SEP ;) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:24 PM >> > To: NT System Admin Issues >> > Subject: Re: The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt >> > >> > We had ePO - it was one of the driving reasons for us to abandon it. >> > The other reason was the unreasonable amount of resources the client >> > sucked out of the workstations. Yet another reason was the price - we got >> > VIPRE Enterprise for the renewal price of McAfee, and the renewal price on >> > VIPRE was hard to beat. >> > >> > Hard to say which reason topped the others - kind of a 3-way tie... >> > >> > Kurt >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:56, Mathew Shember >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I guess the snark wasn't obvious. >> >> >> >> The AV is tolerable as long as you have ePO going. However, my >> >> "enlightenment" happened when there was a fast moving version of sdbot >> >> which >> >> snuck by and I had to user higher tiered support. They identified it >> >> with >> >> Kaspersky. >> >> >> >> We were going to use ironmail (another company) but decided against it >> >> after hearing the announcement..... >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] >> >> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 4:28 PM >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> >> Subject: Re: The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt >> >> >> >> Well, yes, actually, and they are part of Intel, and have been >> >> acquiring companies for themselves - for instance, Secure Computing a few >> >> years ago, for their Sidewinder firewalls (which are now McAfee Secure >> >> Enterprise Firewalls), among others. >> >> >> >> I still don't like their AV product, but they haven't yet ruined the >> >> firewall... >> >> >> >> Kurt >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 15:57, Mathew Shember >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Mcafee is stillll in business? >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[email protected]] >> >>> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 02:46 PM >> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> >> >>> Subject: The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt >> >>> >> >>> * The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt >> >>> >> >>> Wow, this is actually major security news. I found this on the blog >> >>> from Coretrace, and they said: "This week, McAfee, one of the two >> >>> dominant forces in reactive, blacklist-based endpoint security, >> >>> actively and unequivocally endorsed Application Whitelisting. >> >>> Ironically, in hard coverage of Symantec's recent problems with >> >>> pcAnywhere, the industry is actively recommending application >> >>> whitelisting too." Here is the link: >> >>> http://www.coretraceblogs.com/2012-01/security-earthquake-that-nobody >> >>> - felt-mcafee-endorses-application-whitelisting/ >> >>> >> >>> So, what is the big news? It turns security on its head. Instead of >> >>> keeping bad code out, with application whitelisting (also known as >> >>> Application Control) you only allow known-good code to run. That's >> >>> really a 180, and very, very interesting from a system admin >> >>> perspective. >> >>> >> >>> I have done some research in this area and have written a whitepaper >> >>> about whitelisting, and why as a system admin you should look into >> >>> this for the near future. This is a new security layer for your >> >>> 'defense-in-depth'. You will hear more from me about whitelisting this >> >>> year: >> >>> http://www.knowbe4.com/resources/the-endpoint-security-advantages-of- >> >>> w hitelisting-a-whitepaper-for-system-administrators/ >> >>> >> >>> Warm regards, >> >>> >> >>> Stu >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >> >>> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >>> >> >>> --- >> >>> To manage subscriptions click here: >> >>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> >>> or send an email to [email protected] >> >>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >> >>> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >>> >> >>> --- >> >>> To manage subscriptions click here: >> >>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> >>> or send an email to [email protected] >> >>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> >>> >> >> >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >> >> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> >> >> --- >> >> To manage subscriptions click here: >> >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> >> or send an email to [email protected] >> >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> >> >> >> >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >> >> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> >> >> --- >> >> To manage subscriptions click here: >> >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> >> or send an email to [email protected] >> >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> > >> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >> > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> > >> > --- >> > To manage subscriptions click here: >> > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> > or send an email to [email protected] >> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> > >> > >> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >> > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> > >> > --- >> > To manage subscriptions click here: >> > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> > or send an email to [email protected] >> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> --- >> To manage subscriptions click here: >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> or send an email to [email protected] >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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