http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/system-center/default.aspx Bottom of the page. Licensing is considerably more simple now. There are essentially 2 categories. Datacenter and Standard. If you can make it, Datacenter just simplifies your life considerably. There is a PDF on the bottom which has more details.
Additional random resource about various System Center stuff here: http://systemcenteruniverse.com/ The quality of the videos is less then great but you can download the slide decks seperately and it's good enough for most of it to get some nice information on the product line. They have a presentation on licensing there. On a side note, I have to tell you I am seriously liking the SCVMM stuff around 32 minute mark. Thinking of setting up our lab here like that if I can figure out the component parts of it. And another random link for SCVMM stuff here: http://mctreadiness.com/MicrosoftCareerConferenceRegistration.aspx?pid=298 (Note: I know you didn't ask about SCVMM but it's in the family and I had it up on my screen already) Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Jeff Brown <[email protected]>wrote: > Thanks Bonnie. I AM hoping to install on the cluster and that is my > core installation issue at this point. I don’t see how I can install it on > a VM, so I’m thinking it will have to be installed on a host. Will start > that tomorrow. Nice thing about a test environment… I don’t have to know > everything, but this one point bothers me.**** > > ** ** > > Jeff**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Monday, March 12, 2012 4:07 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Clustering/SCVMM**** > > ** ** > > I am by NO means an expert, but we have briefly overviewed the SCCM 2012 > line as we start to look at possibly rolling out DPM. We also run a > Hyper-V Cluster and are currently using SCVMM 2008 R2 and SCCM 2007 R3, so > it might fit nicely in with what we already have.**** > > ** ** > > From what I can tell reading of what you’re referring to (written by J. C. > Hornbeck > http://blogs.technet.com/b/scvmm/archive/2011/06/28/high-availability-enhancements-in-vmm-2012.aspx), > it appears that they are making SCVMM 2012 a cluster aware application, > hence it could be installed directly into a Microsoft failover cluster. > What I can’t tell from the article though is whether they are referring to > actually installing in the same Microsoft failover cluster as where you are > running your Hyper-V VMs, assuming you are using a cluster, and I don’t > think they are—that might be what is confusing to you. If you’re not using > a failover cluster, this whole scenario won’t even apply to you, but if you > are, I think they intend for you to have another one for your SCVMM.**** > > ** ** > > As to the licensing, you’ll want to review that. The MS person we got the > 2012 demo from told us they are COMPLETELY revamping the SCCM licensing > starting with 2012, so the licensing works in a completely different way > than previous versions have. You’ll want to check with an MS sales person > who knows the new licensing to get the rundown on the changes.**** > > ** ** > > Right now, with SCVMM 2008 you have a few dilemmas that I think they are > trying to solve. If you install it on a guest server in your Hyper-V > cluster, and the cluster is down for any reason, the SCVMM tool you need > may not be available. The general alternative is to install it on a > separate physical server, but then you end up running one more physical box > (and paying for licensing, etc), and that HW can also go offline. Failover > clustering is the next logical step if you need that high of availability > for your SCVMM. **** > > ** ** > > BTW, that is a good read—I’m looking forward to the Dynamic Optimization > patch management feature. That would be really nice if it acutally works > as they describe.**** > > ** ** > > -Bonnie**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Monday, March 12, 2012 9:30 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Clustering/SCVMM**** > > ** ** > > I have been going around and around in circles with SCVMM blogs and MS > White papers and can’t find anything that actually ANSWERS my question. I > have a test environment with 3 HyperV hosts, all W2K8 R2 connected to an > EMC fiber channel SAN. It all works.**** > > ** ** > > Production servers here are all ESX. I ran SCVMM2012 RC for a time on a > VM in the ESX side. There were a lot of things I could not do because it > did not have access to the same SAN space as my HyperV environment.**** > > ** ** > > I have removed VMM and taken down the ESX VM and am trying to decide how > best to install VMM in my HyperV environment. I have ASSUMED that > installing it on a host is a NO NO, because of licensing issues.**** > > ** ** > > I am struggling to understand how it(VMM2012) will work installed on a > HyperV VM. I am looking at a doc written by J.C. Hornbuckle: > HIGH-AVAILABILITY ENHANCEMENTS IN VMM 2010. There is a phrase that says: > “simply begin the configuration on an existing cluster node”… **** > > ** ** > > This is my question: Is a HyperV VM a cluster node? Or does the term > “cluster node” refer only to my HV Host machines?**** > > ** ** > > Jeff Brown**** > > IT Operations**** > > Webco Industries**** > > (918) 246-2456**** > > ** ** > > > This email and any attachments transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you have received this > email in error please notify the sender immediately. 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