My question was dumb, and I knew better. VMM2012 is currently distributed as a .VHD. My entire HyperV environment is clustered, so I don't think I need to "create a cluster out of VMs". I'm still confused by some instructions that seem to indicate that you enable the hypervisor role before installing VMM2012, but since it is packaged the way it is I'll just bring it up and go from there. Thanks. Bleeding edge, right?
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 8:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering/SCVMM Oops - I missed the 2012 part. Yes - for SCVMM 2012 it is a cluster aware product. To Jeff: you could create a cluster out of VMs and put SCVMM onto that Cheers Ken From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2012 8:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering/SCVMM Really, for SCVMM 2012? I can already create a VM inside of our failover cluster and run SCVMM 2008 R2 to move between nodes. We had it that way for quite a while under our original Hyper-V cluster, before switching later to a physical box (mostly so others here can easily find "the console" of the virtual servers). This is what we're reading from: http://blogs.technet.com/b/scvmm/archive/2011/06/28/high-availability-enhancements-in-vmm-2012.aspx From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 7:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Clustering/SCVMM They are talking about the Hyper-V physical host as being part of a cluster. SCVMM is not cluster aware (aside from the database component) - you can't run it as a cluster resource (i.e. on a cluster). At best, you can create a VM with SCVMM in it, and make the VM a cluster resource. In the event that there is a physical node failure, you can failover the VM to another physical node. The backend SCVMM database (being SQL Server) can be run on a cluster. Cheers Ken From: Jeff Brown [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2012 12:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Clustering/SCVMM I have been going around and around in circles with SCVMM blogs and MS White papers and can't find anything that actually ANSWERS my question. I have a test environment with 3 HyperV hosts, all W2K8 R2 connected to an EMC fiber channel SAN. It all works. Production servers here are all ESX. I ran SCVMM2012 RC for a time on a VM in the ESX side. There were a lot of things I could not do because it did not have access to the same SAN space as my HyperV environment. I have removed VMM and taken down the ESX VM and am trying to decide how best to install VMM in my HyperV environment. I have ASSUMED that installing it on a host is a NO NO, because of licensing issues. I am struggling to understand how it(VMM2012) will work installed on a HyperV VM. I am looking at a doc written by J.C. 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