Folks, not only is Cynicalgeek an expert in legal and educational areas, he's also now proven to be 31337! On Mar 14, 2012 3:49 PM, "Cynicalgeek" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yea, like pointing out the fact that the moderators of this LISTSERV are > doing it wrong. > > The LISTSERV can't keep up with the traffic. > > There's no security whatsoever on the accounts of members of these lists. > > Go ahead, go log in as anybody that you want to, change their password, > their name, and their Email address. Heck, sign them up for other mailing > lists if you want. > > Do you need ANY OTHER REASON to move the list? > > BTW, you're welcome for pointing that out to everybody. > > > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Jonathan Link <[email protected]>wrote: > >> In the absence of updates and information rumors and dark thoughts grow... >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Paul Hutchings < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Cynical as I am I wouldn't attribute to malice what can be attributed >>> to poor software or a configuration problem :) >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Jonathan Link [[email protected]] >>> *Sent:* 14 March 2012 2:17 PM >>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >>> *Subject:* Re: List Speed? >>> >>> I'd rather have fast list response and associated griping than the >>> current situation. >>> >>> My cynical mind? GFI doesn't want to maintain the lists, or at least >>> not do it for free. Sunbelt built a lot of goodwill by hosting the list >>> and getting free advertising out of it. Since GFI has taken over, I see >>> very little marketing to the lists, so I can't help but wonder if the lists >>> are just being squeeze out. That's me. I'm a cynical guy. >>> >>> Note, it's not unreasonable for GFI to not want to continue hosting the >>> list. They don't owe us anything. However, the reverse is true. And a >>> lot of goodwill will end up getting trashed if the list response time isn't >>> fixed, and it continues to hobble along like this for a while. I'm saying, >>> in response to Richard's post, that I am willing to pay a little money for >>> continued access to this community. I don't mind the OT posts, and a >>> moderator can always step in and say, cool it, whether it is "free" or >>> subscriber sponsored >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Maglinger, Paul >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah, but then everyone would feel justified in griping about OT >>>> posts. (I’m paying good money for this?!?!)**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> -Paul**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *From:* Guyer, Donald [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:54 AM >>>> >>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >>>> *Subject:* RE: List Speed?**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> I’d be in for an annual fee. The (useful and applicable) knowledge I’ve >>>> gained participating in this list far outweighs any other source I’ve been >>>> exposed to, ever.**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Regards,**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Don Guyer**** >>>> >>>> Directory and Messaging Services >>>> Catholic Health East, ITSS**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:57 PM >>>> >>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >>>> *Subject:* Re: List Speed?**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> I'd pay. Even annually. The utility of this list is approaching nil. >>>> Yeah, I go off-topic, I admit it. Find a frequent contributor who >>>> doesn't...**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Waiting 4 or more hours for a reply, seeing multiple postings about the >>>> same item (Dell acquiring Sonicwall) is something I can do without.**** >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Richard Stovall <[email protected]> >>>> wrote:**** >>>> >>>> <$.02> **** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> It's a disaster anymore. Throw in something like the BBQ discussion, >>>> or any other topic which generates a lot of traffic, and it's all over for >>>> hours. Why this has persisted for so long is incomprehensible to me.** >>>> ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> I realize that the lists are a free service, and I am truly, truly >>>> grateful for them. And the simple matter of the fact is that they're just >>>> not working very effectively anymore.**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> My vote is to either kill the lists or fix them.* I think a lot of >>>> people would be somewhat saddened to see the Sunbelt lists go away after >>>> all this time, but I also feel confident that most everyone would >>>> resubscribe somewhere else pretty darn quickly if an alternative presented >>>> itself and was made known to all the members.**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> * Would I pay a voluntary one-time fee of $5 or $10 to help defray the >>>> cost of upgrading friggin' Lyris? Yes. Yes I would.**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> </$.02>**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> 2012/3/13 Paul Hutchings <[email protected]>**** >>>> >>>> Did we ever get anywhere with list speed? **** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> A post today took an hour to show up (and before I started to receive >>>> any out-of-office replies so that's not just the time taken to make it to >>>> my Inbox).**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> I know there was a thread that mentioned issues with a Lyris "upgrade", >>>> but I don't remember seeing anything beyond that?**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Respectfully, the delays are really starting to make me think twice >>>> about posting as I find myself thinking "It'll take an hour to appear, >>>> someone will have already responded by then".**** >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *MIRA Ltd***** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England**** >>>> >>>> Registered in England and Wales No. 402570**** >>>> >>>> VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use >>>> of the intended recipient. 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