Bummer, I exchanged by ban-stick for a mocking-racket. But, its a +7 against anonymous emailers. -- Espi
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:21 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > You Guys and gals giggle about it. I'm still in a good mood. No hard > feelings. Think about the CONTENT*[citation needed]* I gave you and you > can hat tip me later. > > I'm not going anywhere unless you ban me. I don't think you will nor do I > think you have reason to. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:52 PM, Don Ely <[email protected]> wrote: > > Folks, not only is Cynicalgeek an expert in legal and educational areas, > he's also now proven to be 31337! > On Mar 14, 2012 3:49 PM, "Cynicalgeek" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yea, like pointing out the fact that the moderators of this LISTSERV are >> doing it wrong. >> >> The LISTSERV can't keep up with the traffic. >> >> There's no security whatsoever on the accounts of members of these lists. >> >> Go ahead, go log in as anybody that you want to, change their password, >> their name, and their Email address. Heck, sign them up for other mailing >> lists if you want. >> >> Do you need ANY OTHER REASON to move the list? >> >> BTW, you're welcome for pointing that out to everybody. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Jonathan Link >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> In the absence of updates and information rumors and dark thoughts >>> grow... >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Paul Hutchings < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Cynical as I am I wouldn't attribute to malice what can be attributed >>>> to poor software or a configuration problem :) >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Jonathan Link [[email protected]] >>>> *Sent:* 14 March 2012 2:17 PM >>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >>>> *Subject:* Re: List Speed? >>>> >>>> I'd rather have fast list response and associated griping than the >>>> current situation. >>>> >>>> My cynical mind? GFI doesn't want to maintain the lists, or at least >>>> not do it for free. Sunbelt built a lot of goodwill by hosting the list >>>> and getting free advertising out of it. Since GFI has taken over, I see >>>> very little marketing to the lists, so I can't help but wonder if the lists >>>> are just being squeeze out. That's me. I'm a cynical guy. >>>> >>>> Note, it's not unreasonable for GFI to not want to continue hosting the >>>> list. They don't owe us anything. However, the reverse is true. And a >>>> lot of goodwill will end up getting trashed if the list response time isn't >>>> fixed, and it continues to hobble along like this for a while. I'm saying, >>>> in response to Richard's post, that I am willing to pay a little money for >>>> continued access to this community. I don't mind the OT posts, and a >>>> moderator can always step in and say, cool it, whether it is "free" or >>>> subscriber sponsored >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Maglinger, Paul >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah, but then everyone would feel justified in griping about OT >>>>> posts. (I’m paying good money for this?!?!)**** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> -Paul**** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Guyer, Donald [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:54 AM >>>>> >>>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >>>>> *Subject:* RE: List Speed?**** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> I’d be in for an annual fee. The (useful and applicable) knowledge >>>>> I’ve gained participating in this list far outweighs any other source I’ve >>>>> been exposed to, ever.**** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> Regards,**** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> Don Guyer**** >>>>> >>>>> Directory and Messaging Services >>>>> Catholic Health East, ITSS**** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:57 PM >>>>> >>>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >>>>> *Subject:* Re: List Speed?**** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> I'd pay. Even annually. The utility of this list is approaching nil. >>>>> Yeah, I go off-topic, I admit it. Find a frequent contributor who >>>>> doesn't...**** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> Waiting 4 or more hours for a reply, seeing multiple postings about >>>>> the same item (Dell acquiring Sonicwall) is something I can do without. >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Richard Stovall <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote:**** >>>>> >>>>> <$.02> **** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> It's a disaster anymore. Throw in something like the BBQ discussion, >>>>> or any other topic which generates a lot of traffic, and it's all over for >>>>> hours. Why this has persisted for so long is incomprehensible to me.* >>>>> *** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> I realize that the lists are a free service, and I am truly, truly >>>>> grateful for them. And the simple matter of the fact is that they're just >>>>> not working very effectively anymore.**** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> My vote is to either kill the lists or fix them.* I think a lot of >>>>> people would be somewhat saddened to see the Sunbelt lists go away after >>>>> all this time, but I also feel confident that most everyone would >>>>> resubscribe somewhere else pretty darn quickly if an alternative presented >>>>> itself and was made known to all the members.**** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> * Would I pay a voluntary one-time fee of $5 or $10 to help defray the >>>>> cost of upgrading friggin' Lyris? Yes. Yes I would.**** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> </$.02>**** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> 2012/3/13 Paul Hutchings <[email protected]>**** >>>>> >>>>> Did we ever get anywhere with list speed? **** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> A post today took an hour to show up (and before I started to receive >>>>> any out-of-office replies so that's not just the time taken to make it to >>>>> my Inbox).**** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> I know there was a thread that mentioned issues with a Lyris >>>>> "upgrade", but I don't remember seeing anything beyond that?**** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> Respectfully, the delays are really starting to make me think twice >>>>> about posting as I find myself thinking "It'll take an hour to appear, >>>>> someone will have already responded by then".**** >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> *MIRA Ltd***** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England**** >>>>> >>>>> Registered in England and Wales No. 402570**** >>>>> >>>>> VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84**** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the >>>>> use of the intended recipient. 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