That's a shame because as an org you can get pretty amazing prices from MS John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families
----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 03:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Hyjack - Linux in the Enterprise/Schools (was RE: Sophisticated Phising attempt?) From: Michael B. Smith > If anything has developed to provide the capabilities of Exchange, including > the tight Integration with Outlook, Lync, SharePoint, IIS and other > Microsoft infrastructure products - then it certainly deserves a serious > look. Outlook, yes. Lync, SharePoint, IIS, etc... no. But I don't use any of those solutions. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:57:10 -0700 Subject: RE: Hyjack - Linux in the Enterprise/Schools (was RE: Sophisticated Phising attempt?) > If you really think that, then perhaps it's time for me to go back and take > another look at Kerio and other products. > > When I last ran the hosting portion of an ISP (toward the end of 2007), we > had 3 different email offerings. A free one, based on one of the free email > servers, which had low feature content ("free" to purchasers of other > services of course). One that was $1 / month per mailbox that was based on > Icewarp's Merak which had a number of additional features. And finally one > based on Exchange and LCS (at the time) that offered a HECK of a lot more > features and functionality. > > If anything has developed to provide the capabilities of Exchange, including > the tight Integration with Outlook, Lync, SharePoint, IIS and other > Microsoft infrastructure products - then it certainly deserves a serious > look. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:44 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Hyjack - Linux in the Enterprise/Schools (was RE: Sophisticated > Phising attempt?) > > No way in heck would I touch Exchange. What does Exchange get me that other, > cheaper products (i.e.: Kerio) can't get me? Except of course a bogged-down > server with a lot of additional maintenance and a smaller budget. > > > --Matt Ross > Ephrata School District > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jonathan Link > [mailto:[email protected]] > To: NT System Admin Issues > [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 > 11:36:48 -0700 > Subject: Re: Hyjack - Linux in the Enterprise/Schools (was > RE: Sophisticated Phising attempt?) > > > > Re: point #1, I guess you won't be doing much Exchange 2007 and later. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Matthew W. Ross > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > On the "Linux in the News" front, Linux has been doing well in the > > > past few days... > > > > > > http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/03/red-hat/all/1 > > > > > > http://news.techeye.net/software/munich-saves-a-fortune-switching-to > > > -linux > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > There are still some fairly basic hurdles that Linux needs to get > > > over in order to make it in Enterprise/Schools: > > > > > > 1. Centralized management improvements: My boss wants everything to > > > be point-and-click, so no CLI options would work here. If it can't > > > be done in a GUI, she won't go for it... because what if I leave and > > > nobody else > > knows > > > how to fix things? And how do you deploy a printer to a lab? What > > > about updating Firefox in an entire school? Thus far, Webmin might > > > be the best current solution to this problem, but I can't webmin 20 > > > computers at the same time as far as I know. > > > > > > 2. Network home folders: Everybody loves that their documents are > > > automatically saved to the server... and we like not having to > > > backup > > 1000+ > > > desktops. Getting this to work in Linux is no cakewalk. Just getting > > > Linux to login using a network LDAP server is difficult (Redhat's > 'authconfig' > > > utility is an exception, but still no network home folders). > > > > > > I wish I had the brain power and time to do these things, as I would > > > try to fix these seemingly basic problems. Alas, I do not. > > > > > > > > > --Matt Ross > > > Ephrata School District > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Ziots, Edward > > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 > > > 09:56:13 -0700 > > > Subject: RE: Sophisticated Phising attempt? > > > > > > > > > > Linux might look better, but is it, when you end up having a new > > > > set of problems to deal with? 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