From: Ken Schaefer

> And TBH 350 users is not an enterprise, it's a small/medium business.
> Somewhere at 10K+ seats are you starting to look at "enterprise", depending
> on industry/technology

I'd argue that there are several levels of "Enterprise-ness". I agree that 
having 350 users is not the same as having 10K users, but I'd likely have more 
help/training/pay in that case.

> You might not need those features, or know what they are, but that doesn't 
> mean
> that they aren't useful to other people.

You are absolutely correct.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Schaefer
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To: NT System Admin Issues
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Sent: Thu, 29 Mar 2012
20:00:12 -0700
Subject: RE: Hyjack - Linux in the Enterprise/Schools (was
RE: Sophisticated Phising attempt?)


> Just responding to a few posts concurrently:
> I can't comment about schools, but enterprises need a lot more than what is
> listed below. 
> Pretty much everything needs to be able to be automated. 
> And TBH 350 users is not an enterprise, it's a small/medium business.
> Somewhere at 10K+ seats are you starting to look at "enterprise", depending
> on industry/technology
> 
> In terms of Exchange vs Kerio: Kerio's a mailserver. Outlook+Exchange is a
> lot more than that, and offers a lot more features than Kerio does. You
> might not need those features, or know what they are, but that doesn't mean
> that they aren't useful to other people. There probably isn't a single large
> organisation in the world that doesn't run on Notes/Exchange/Groupwise or
> similar enterprise messaging/collaboration platform.
> 
> Cheers
> Ken
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Friday, 30 March 2012 2:05 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Hyjack - Linux in the Enterprise/Schools (was RE: Sophisticated
> Phising attempt?)
> 
> 
> There are still some fairly basic hurdles that Linux needs to get over in
> order to make it in Enterprise/Schools:
> 
> 1. Centralized management improvements: My boss wants everything to be
> point-and-click, so no CLI options would work here. If it can't be done in a
> GUI, she won't go for it... because what if I leave and nobody else knows
> how to fix things? And how do you deploy a printer to a lab? What about
> updating Firefox in an entire school? Thus far, Webmin might be the best
> current solution to this problem, but I can't webmin 20 computers at the
> same time as far as I know.
> 
> 2. Network home folders: Everybody loves that their documents are
> automatically saved to the server... and we like not having to backup 1000+
> desktops. Getting this to work in Linux is no cakewalk. Just getting Linux
> to login using a network LDAP server is difficult (Redhat's 'authconfig'
> utility is an exception, but still no network home folders).
> 
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
> 
> 
> 
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