This is true, Exchange costs would be much less expensive for us thanks to the EDU discounts. But exchange support costs are a complete unknown. Kerio support is excellent, and they know their product well.
Also, I'm talking about a mail server for ~350 users... not something for 5,000 users. I have no experience scaling that high. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ----- Original Message ----- From: John Cook [mailto:[email protected]] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:06:57 -0700 Subject: Re: Hyjack - Linux in the Enterprise/Schools (was RE: Sophisticated Phising attempt?) > That's a shame because as an org you can get pretty amazing prices from MS > John W. Cook > Systems Administrator > Partnership for Strong Families > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 03:04 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: Hyjack - Linux in the Enterprise/Schools (was RE: Sophisticated > Phising attempt?) > > From: Michael B. Smith > > If anything has developed to provide the capabilities of Exchange, > including > > the tight Integration with Outlook, Lync, SharePoint, IIS and other > > Microsoft infrastructure products - then it certainly deserves a serious > > look. > > Outlook, yes. > > Lync, SharePoint, IIS, etc... no. But I don't use any of those solutions. > > > --Matt Ross > Ephrata School District > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael B. Smith > [mailto:[email protected]] > To: NT System Admin Issues > [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 > 11:57:10 -0700 > Subject: RE: Hyjack - Linux in the Enterprise/Schools (was > RE: Sophisticated Phising attempt?) > > > > If you really think that, then perhaps it's time for me to go back and > take > > another look at Kerio and other products. > > > > When I last ran the hosting portion of an ISP (toward the end of 2007), we > > had 3 different email offerings. A free one, based on one of the free > email > > servers, which had low feature content ("free" to purchasers of other > > services of course). One that was $1 / month per mailbox that was based on > > Icewarp's Merak which had a number of additional features. And finally one > > based on Exchange and LCS (at the time) that offered a HECK of a lot more > > features and functionality. > > > > If anything has developed to provide the capabilities of Exchange, > including > > the tight Integration with Outlook, Lync, SharePoint, IIS and other > > Microsoft infrastructure products - then it certainly deserves a serious > > look. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:44 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: Hyjack - Linux in the Enterprise/Schools (was RE: > Sophisticated > > Phising attempt?) > > > > No way in heck would I touch Exchange. What does Exchange get me that > other, > > cheaper products (i.e.: Kerio) can't get me? Except of course a > bogged-down > > server with a lot of additional maintenance and a smaller budget. > > > > > > --Matt Ross > > Ephrata School District > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jonathan Link > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 > > 11:36:48 -0700 > > Subject: Re: Hyjack - Linux in the Enterprise/Schools (was > > RE: Sophisticated Phising attempt?) > > > > > > > Re: point #1, I guess you won't be doing much Exchange 2007 and later. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Matthew W. Ross > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > On the "Linux in the News" front, Linux has been doing well in the > > > > past few days... > > > > > > > > http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/03/red-hat/all/1 > > > > > > > > http://news.techeye.net/software/munich-saves-a-fortune-switching-to > > > > -linux > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > > > There are still some fairly basic hurdles that Linux needs to get > > > > over in order to make it in Enterprise/Schools: > > > > > > > > 1. Centralized management improvements: My boss wants everything to > > > > be point-and-click, so no CLI options would work here. If it can't > > > > be done in a GUI, she won't go for it... because what if I leave and > > > > nobody else > > > knows > > > > how to fix things? And how do you deploy a printer to a lab? What > > > > about updating Firefox in an entire school? Thus far, Webmin might > > > > be the best current solution to this problem, but I can't webmin 20 > > > > computers at the same time as far as I know. > > > > > > > > 2. Network home folders: Everybody loves that their documents are > > > > automatically saved to the server... and we like not having to > > > > backup > > > 1000+ > > > > desktops. Getting this to work in Linux is no cakewalk. Just getting > > > > Linux to login using a network LDAP server is difficult (Redhat's > > 'authconfig' > > > > utility is an exception, but still no network home folders). > > > > > > > > I wish I had the brain power and time to do these things, as I would > > > > try to fix these seemingly basic problems. Alas, I do not. > > > > > > > > > > > > --Matt Ross > > > > Ephrata School District > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Ziots, Edward > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > Sent: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 > > > > 09:56:13 -0700 > > > > Subject: RE: Sophisticated Phising attempt? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Linux might look better, but is it, when you end up having a new > > > > > set of problems to deal with? 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