As an employer spending 25k on techs to get certified, you are darn straight I will be taking their certs and putting them on the wall and making one huge deal about their accomplishment. Nothing speaks validation like recognition, and I want to encourage them to continue getting educated..so they make the company more money and they get bigger bonuses...
I'm sorry Ken that no one has encouraged you on your road to IT Stardom. That's an impressive list of credentials.. I hope to add that many initials to the end of my name, must have taken you a tremendous amount of time, you should be really proud of those accomplishments. I should really listen to you more often. J Greg From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MCP Welcome Kit - Cheap Looking It's still a lot of work, and there's really no reason to downplay any accomplishment, regardless of what it's worth. Chris From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 07:22 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MCP Welcome Kit - Cheap Looking Whilst MCSE is an achievement, it's probably no more than a baseline in the industry. Do you really want to put your MCSE cert on the wall or something? If you go to university and complete a 3-4 year degree - what do you get? A rolled up piece of paper (and your academic record). That's generally a lot more work, and you still get diddly-squat. Cheers Ken MCITP, MCTS, MCSE+Security, MCDBA, MCSA, MCP, blah, blah M.BT (UNSW), B.Com (UNSW) Microsoft MVP - Identity and Access Management (IIS) Blah, blah, blah From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2008 10:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MCP Welcome Kit - Cheap Looking Yeah that would have been nice after all the work. Better than a cheap cert and nice magnetic pin I have to keep away from machines anyway. Jon On Jan 31, 2008 6:14 AM, Cliff Partlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Far be it from me to stir anything up but, Microsoft used to give us 1 free year to TechNet for new MCSE. "From The Sunny Side Of The Street!" Cliff P. From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 2:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MCP Welcome Kit - Cheap Looking Personally I had hoped for some free software for all the hard work to get the (*&%^&^%$& thing. I got pretty much the same thing that your did. Do you still get the magnetic pin? Jon On Jan 31, 2008 4:38 AM, Cliff Partlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is exactly what we were saying 10 years ago:-) "From The Sunny Side Of The Street!" Cliff P. -----Original Message----- From: WL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 1:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MCP Welcome Kit - Cheap Looking They should just send you a .pdf file to print for yourself. Isn't it just a 'feel good' thing anyway? On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Phil Guevara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone else think the MCP welcome kits got kinda cheap looking? > > When I first got my mcp, I got a pin, a nice certificate and it came in a > secure box. > > Now when I received my mcse recently, the certificate changed and looks soo > cheap. The seal of approval looks cheesy and it came in a flimsy carton > that bends easily so the certificate arrives all bent up. > > I worked really hard for this, despite the many paper mcse's out there, and > I just thought they should improve it instead of make it look worse. Anyone > else feel the same way?? > > -Phil > > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~
