Because none of them have been around that long...

On Feb 1, 2008 10:30 AM, Jim Majorowicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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>  How come nobody every talks about getting the MMSYMCK[1] anymore?
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> [1] I'm sure I'm forgetting a few letters…
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> *From:* Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:06 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: MCP Welcome Kit - Cheap Looking
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> I think the yada yada yada is a better one to pursue.
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> Bob Fronk
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> *From:* John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:02 AM
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: MCP Welcome Kit - Cheap Looking
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> I'm working on the Blah, blah, blah cert myself!
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> *John W. Cook*
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> *System Administrator*
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> *Partnership For Strong Families*
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> *315 SE 2nd Ave*
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> *Gainesville, Fl 32601*
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> *Office (352) 393-2741 x320*
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> *Cell     (352) 215-6944*
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> *Fax     (352) 393-2746*
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> *MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+*
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> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:47 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: MCP Welcome Kit - Cheap Looking
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> As an employer spending 25k on techs to get certified, you are darn
> straight I will be taking their certs and putting them on the wall and
> making one huge deal about their accomplishment.  Nothing speaks validation
> like recognition, and I want to encourage them to continue getting
> educated..so they make the company more money and they get bigger bonuses…
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> I'm sorry Ken that no one has encouraged you on your road to IT Stardom.
> That's an impressive list of credentials.. I hope to add that many initials
> to the end of my name, must have taken you a tremendous amount of time, you
> should be really proud of those accomplishments.  I should really listen to
> you more often. J
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> Greg
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> *From:* Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:40 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: MCP Welcome Kit - Cheap Looking
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> It's still a lot of work, and there's really no reason to downplay any
> accomplishment, regardless of what it's worth.
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> Chris
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> *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 31, 2008 07:22 hrs
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: MCP Welcome Kit - Cheap Looking
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> Whilst MCSE is an achievement, it's probably no more than a baseline in
> the industry. Do you really want to put your MCSE cert on the wall or
> something?
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> If you go to university and complete a 3-4 year degree – what do you get?
> A rolled up piece of paper (and your academic record). That's generally a
> lot more work, and you still get diddly-squat.
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> Cheers
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> Ken
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> MCITP, MCTS, MCSE+Security, MCDBA, MCSA, MCP, blah, blah
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> M.BT <http://m.bt/> (UNSW), B.Com (UNSW)
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> Microsoft MVP – Identity and Access Management (IIS)
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> Blah, blah, blah
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> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 31 January 2008 10:20 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: MCP Welcome Kit - Cheap Looking
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> Yeah that would have been nice after all the work.  Better than a cheap
> cert and nice magnetic pin I have to keep away from machines anyway.
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> Jon
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> On Jan 31, 2008 6:14 AM, Cliff Partlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Far be it from me to stir anything up but, Microsoft used to give us 1
> free year to TechNet for new MCSE.
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> "*From The Sunny Side Of The Street!*"
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> *Cliff P.*
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> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 31, 2008 2:45 AM
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: MCP Welcome Kit - Cheap Looking
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> Personally I had hoped for some free software for all the hard work to get
> the (*&%^&^%$& thing.  I got pretty much the same thing that your did.  Do
> you still get the magnetic pin?
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> Jon
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> On Jan 31, 2008 4:38 AM, Cliff Partlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> This is exactly what we were saying 10 years ago:-)
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> "From The Sunny Side Of The Street!"
> Cliff P.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: WL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 1:19 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
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> Subject: Re: MCP Welcome Kit - Cheap Looking
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> They should just send you a .pdf file to print for yourself.
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> Isn't it just a 'feel good' thing anyway?
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> On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Phil Guevara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Anyone else think the MCP welcome kits got kinda cheap looking?
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> > When I first got my mcp, I got a pin, a nice certificate and it came in
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> > secure box.
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> > Now when I received my mcse recently, the certificate changed and looks
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> > cheap.  The seal of approval looks cheesy and it came in a flimsy carton
> > that bends easily so the certificate arrives all bent up.
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> > I worked really hard for this, despite the many paper mcse's out there,
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> > I just thought they should improve it instead of make it look worse.
> Anyone
> > else feel the same way??
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> > -Phil
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