Guilty as charged :-)   

Even at that it only failed because I tried to do an SBS-y thing after treating 
it non-SBS-y for years. I think the real takeaway is either treat it "native" 
-OR- SBS-like but don't mix and match. SBS2011 makes the "non-SBSy" stuff 
kludgy so you REALLY don't want to mix and match.

Notable with SBS2011:
1. Once you run the Connect to Internet wizard it automatically creates a DHCP 
scope and activates it.
2. It automatically configures WSUS
3. With wizards you can move where Exchange, SharePoint, and User shares are 
stored, even after you've had the server running for months

SBS2011 is almost NOTHING like SBS 2003. Not sure what the concern is of the 
SBS server having the FSMO roles, that doesn't prevent you from standing up 
another DC. In fact when this environment was SBS 2003 I was able to extend the 
schema and stand up a 2008 R2 DC.

I say stick with the wizards and everything will be more consistent .

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Art DeKneef [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 12:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS Standard 2011 or Server 2008 R2

Ben,

I will have to disagree with you on this. In my experience I haven't had many 
issues with the different SBSs compared to regular Windows Server. Each has its 
place and I agree it will depend on the individual client's needs.

Yes the "wizards" are an issue with a lot of people but think of it as a way to 
configure the server consistently. Is it that much different from someone that 
runs a batch of scripts setting up a server? Couldn't running those scripts be 
called "wizards"?


As for failing in weird ways I'm sure David Lum can attest to the fact of what 
happens when you try to admin a SBS box like a regular Windows Server box. 
Right Dave? :-)

Art


-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 11:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS Standard 2011 or Server 2008 R2

On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Jimmy Tran <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm getting ready to purchase a few licenses for a client.  The main 
> difference I see between the two OS's is SBS includes Exchange.  The 
> down side is SBS requires much more resources as seen from my lab.  If 
> there are no plans for on premise exchange, should I be going with 
> Server
2008 R2?

  While I haven't touched it in literally years, I've always tried to stay away 
from SBS.  There are various licensing constraints (e.g., must be a DC holding 
the FSMO roles) that can cause artificial headaches.  Worse, there are a bunch 
of "wizards" and canned configuration and other things designed to help you, 
and if you deviate from the SBS way of doing things, they can fail in weird 
ways.
 SBS mainly seems to be designed for a small company that mostly does their own 
IT but shouldn't.  So if this client is one of those (mostly does their own IT, 
but shouldn't) SBS may be appropriate.  But if their IT is handled by clueful 
IT professionals, I would steer clear.

-- Ben

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