I doubt that they get 1000s of applications a year, who then would be ineligible or unwilling to meet the rest of the criteria....
*ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 5:17 PM, ANDREW F OFALT <[email protected]> wrote: > you guys did see these parts of the article, right? > > late June I paid the $135 application fee, they verified my MCSE/MCITP > credentials > submit my resume > submit a current project summary doc > I was accepted after Microsoft reviewed my application > We coordinated a date/time for a phone interview to go over my application > package > A day or two after speaking with Ryan, I received an email stating that I > had been accepted into the MCM Program and could schedule (and pay for) > attending a session. > > Microsoft is probably cleaning up on the $135 application fee... > > Andy-0 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Most college degrees are some multiple of the number in question -- > usually 4x minimum. > > > If people coming straight out of college can pass this test, or have the > credentials for this level of work, then I could see your point. > > > Again, Microsoft does not appear to be targeting this to "ye ol' admin" > so, I'm not sure why the inability of ye ol' admin to get access to it is > perceived as a negative. > > > ASB > http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker > Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for > the SMB market… > > > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Ray < [email protected] > wrote: > > > > If it’s going to be competing with the cost of a college degree it’s crazy. > > > From: Ken Schaefer [mailto: [email protected] ] > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:28 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT: MCM certification > > > > > > > I suppose one issue is that for every person that says “$20,000 is too > much, it should be $10,000 and lots more people would do it”, there’s > another person that will say “$10,000 is too much, it should be $5,000 and > lots more people would do it”, and so on. > > > > Cheers > > Ken > > > > From: Christopher Bodnar [ mailto:[email protected] ] > > Sent: Friday, 15 February 2013 7:45 AM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: OT: MCM certification > > > > > > > > Don't want to keep on this thread, it's obvious that most of you are in > disagreement with me. I'm OK with that. But to your comment: > > I think I get who the certification is targeting. My point is that I think > there is a larger population out there that might be interested in and > possibly be valid candidates for, this certification in mid sized shops, > but the cost is prohibitive. And I understand that there has to be a fee > for this. And I even agree that MS isn't really making money off this. But > just doing some basic numbers (I may be way off on these figures so don't > crucify me on this). If there are 4 sessions a year in any given track > (SQL, Messaging, DS, etc...)That's 100 people that need to pay for the > course. Thats' $1.4milliion. Even say they cut this in half, they would > only be reducing their revenue by $750K per track. In terms of MS, that is > peanuts. This is not a revenue stream for MS, they are just trying to > recoup some of the costs. But this would open it up to a much larger pool > of potential candidates. > > Christopher Bodnar > Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise > Architecture and Engineering Services > > > Tel 610-807-6459 > 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 > [email protected] > > > > > The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America > > www.guardianlife.com > > > > > > > > From: "Andrew S. Baker" < [email protected] > > To: "NT System Admin Issues" < [email protected] > > Date: 02/14/2013 02:59 PM > Subject: Re: OT: MCM certification > > > > > > > Chris, if you look at who that certification is targeting, the ROI is > very, very straightforward. > > Lowering the price wouldn't lower the barrier that much, and the cost of > the overall process must come from somewhere. > > > > > > ASB > http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker > Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for > the SMB market… > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Christopher Bodnar < > [email protected] > wrote: > Was reading this yesterday: > > http://blogs.metcorpconsulting.com/tech/?p=1101 > > And got to thinking about this again. It still bothers me that the road to > this certification is artificially blocked by monetary constraints. I think > the certification is difficult enough without adding that as a factor to > reduce the overall numbers just to increase the "value" of this > certification. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I know I wont' even consider > this certification, just based on the cost. Not that I think I would pass, > or that I even think I'm ready for something like this. I don't work for MS > and I'm not a consultant. Which from what I've seen are the 2 primary > groups of people seeking this certification. My employer would never > consider this strictly based on cost and ROI. > > Anyone else of the same opinion? Or am I way off base here? > > > > Chris > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > ~ < http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ > ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ < http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ > ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ < http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ > ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
