From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:08:32 -0400 Subject: Re: Meraki To: [email protected]
>>Yes but at the end of 3 years you have to renew the license or the device >>will stop passing traffic. True, but 3 years is quite a bit of time. True very true. >>I still don't know a lot of homeowners or mom & pop SMB's that will buy into >>something that requires this type of commitment or yearly price. Not only to many do it for antivirus, but everyone does it for telco services. It is becoming the new norm. The software landscape is changing, and subscriptions are going to be the predominant vehicle for commercial software, especially at the retail level in a few years. Oh, and this device isn't really being targeted at the average mom & pop or homeowner. It's an enterprise level device and its being offered for free to IT professionals. 3 years use of it for zero dollars in outlay is better than most other alternatives, and perhaps it will be eligible for an opensource firmware within the 3 years. (The limitation in functionality appears to be a management one rather than a traffic-passing one) Also true on all points but when you see somethng this powerful and can fill a market that has been begging for it, at least to me, it seems like something THEY should be interested in if for nothing else than this will do things and allow for more granular control where it may be needed. Homeowers need a way to assist themselves in controlling what is coming into their homes. How many times does it take for some kid getting enticed into meeting someone, watching some video of a less than intelligent person doing something stupid and then they get hurt or go missing before the parents get concerned? I know I never really had the time to keep an eye on my kid even though I tried hard to at least police her web browsing. Thank God she has a good head on her shoulders and a fixed goal she does not want to lose out on. I know other parents in the local area that are not even this blessed. If both parents work then it is doubly hard to do any policing. Mom and Pop stores will become, if they are not already, a high priority target for scammers and net theives. They don't have a lot of money to throw at IT fixes and don't have professional staff on contract to come in and review their systems and networks. Yes the initial out lay is a lot more than a Linksys or other device at that lever but with the web management part this Meraki offers them a lot more that could be leveraged to make their systems/networks better/safer. As you pointed out the system we are talking about is only to IT professionals. I don't know yet how much or under what conditions one sold would offer. If it offers the same first three years licensing then that would make it a better deal than one without that. Jon ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for the SMB market… On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Jon Harris <[email protected]> wrote: Yes but at the end of 3 years you have to renew the license or the device will stop passing traffic. At least that is what the sales drone told me. I still don't know a lot of homeowners or mom & pop SMB's that will buy into something that requires this type of commitment or yearly price. I will know better after I do my evaluation but I don't see it happening long term. Once I am finished with my evaluation I get the lovely chore of passing my findings to my boss here at work for him to think about. We are not that commited to doing wireless except for BOD and certain officers at only certain locations. This looked like something they would think about but with the yearly cost I don't know. Jon From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:03:56 -0400 Subject: Re: Meraki To: [email protected] My understanding was that the devices came with a 3 YEAR cloud license... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for the SMB market… On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Jon Harris <[email protected]> wrote: After a little talking to a sales drone (quite nice they let me initiate the conversation) I found out that if the Cloud Management License lapses by 90+ days then the AP will stop passing traffic. I don't know yet if that would be good thing or bad. I guess I will have to actually do some testing of the device they are shipping me to see if it is worth the MSRP of $150/AP/year. I can't see this for homeowners or even a lot of mom & pop SMBs. I don't think they will be willing to fork over the year fee. Jon From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Meraki Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:23:41 +0000 I love the Meraki AP’s. We have 40+ over multiple clients. Easy management, great performance. We had have replaced clients that were having horrible issues with Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc.. Not because the equipment was bad, but because the reseller sold it without the proper controllers, or told them they could manage multiple sites from a web page, when in fact they had to connect to the controller locally at each site to manage…. Fortunately almost all of them were able to return their products to reseller or direct. Setup the info on the dashboard. SSID, policies, etc.. Connect your laptop to the Meraki, set the IP/connection info, plug in to POE or injector and 2 mins later you are on and connected. Seamless roaming across a 12000 sqft facility with multiple walls, offices, floors. We have had what we think was just a bad manufacturing batch because about 4 in a one month period arrived, plugged in and promptly (3 -4 mins) fried. Different locations… But since then no issues. Prompt RMA service also.. Now the Firewalls…Same interface, excellent performance. Seriously lacking on features and granular controls. Sonicwall, Watchguard have them beat hands down. Needs polishing on the usability of the interface as well. We are actively involved with their development team as we have some of their higher end stuff in our datacenter and I am unable to meet some client application needs, but I am hopeful for some resolutions. In the meantime I had to install my old Sonicwall 2040 to get around it. If you are just looking for basic firewall and don’t need a lot of higher end firewall features the single management interface for everything is really nice. Automatic Site to Site with WAN Acceleration, Failover, etc are all included. The switches have some huge promise too. We only have one at a client due to price.. Definitely not the cheapest when you can get a 24 port HP 1910 for 400 bucks vs 1100+… Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.com P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-644-3479 Cell 813-644-3476 Fax From: Tom Miller [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Meraki We're looking at Meraki for our two manufacturing facilities. Here at HQ we installed Cisco wireless last year. I've been trying to get Cisco to buy back the equipment so it would be Meraki everywhere. So far no luck - seems like they are pretty much separate companies. I'm still hopeful since I like the meraki management. From: Patrick Salmon [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 4:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Meraki Since it came up the other week (and with full disclosure: I am a Cisco employee and Meraki is now a part of Cisco), anybody want a free AP? Yeah. Free. Follow link. sign up. Participate in webinar. Validate shipping details. Done. Before I get spanked, it is limited to NA and EU so apologies to anyone outside those geos. 802.11n, fully cloud-managed with a 3-yr subscription. Setup is a breeze. I did this a couple of months ago and was very happy with the MR16 they sent (I'm pretty certain that's the $699 one referenced in the link) and when I certified (SE's and Cisco partners only) they replaced it with the MR24 (more radios) added the NGFW and POE Switch. My home network is now entirely Meraki and while I have incentive to be somewhat biased have found it to be uber cool in its own right. Kinda harks back to the good old days when you could get Cisco t-shirts and books just by finding the right link; this is one such link, and you're welcome ;-) Link here: http://www.meraki.com/freeap Pat. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
