Which model did you get? Was this the "free" one they offer?
--Matt Ross Ephrata School District ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:45:55 -0800 Subject: Re: Meraki > So, my device arrived today -- solid piece of hardware, so no complaints. > > As I review the setup instructions, I see a different concern than the ones > that have been voiced thus far. > > I'm really not worried about what might happen 3 years from now, but rather > how much information a cloud managed network device will provide about my > whole network, and not just the device itself. > > The basic instructions say to logon to the website and configure the > settings for the device, then put it on the network and have it download > all its settings. > > I'm going to pay close attention to the type of traffic that this device > sees fit to disclose. :) > > Not a complaint so much as an observation. There's always OpenWRT... > > > > > > > > > *ASB > **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>* > **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for > the SMB market…*** > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Jon Harris <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Here is the question and answer from Meraki about what happens when the > > license expires. > > > > > > 1. What happens when or if the license for the Cloud Management of > > the device lapse?****** > > > > ** **- Devices have a 90 day grace period for renewal. Beyond that, they > > will not be able to pass traffic. > > > > > > > > Jon > > ------------------------------ > > From: [email protected] > > > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: Meraki > > Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:35 -0400 > > > > > > The actual response was at the end of the contract + 90 days is when the > > action would take place. The action in this instance was that "it would > > stop passing traffic". When I get to work later I will cut the > > actual question/answer from my email and send it to the list. > > > > I don't doubt that most larger businesses would keep this device > > under contract. It would be very unwise to do otherwise, although I have > > seen other businesses that depend on their network, not keep their high > > dollar network devices under contract. > > > > Like I said earlier did find the fact that unlike a lot of other IT > > directed businesses they seemed to be more interested in allowing their > > hardware, in this case, to sell themselves rather than have some sales > > drone push it hard. That in itself to me is a big plus for the company. > > > > Jon > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Meraki > > Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:57:46 +0000 > > > > It doesn't stop passing traffic and right now that’s not a hard cut > off. > > We have gone a few weeks past an expiration and we can still monitor and > > make changes. I am sure at some point though you would lose ability to > > manage it. > > > > That is the one part of the whole solution that I am concerned with, but > > in almost all of my clients they keep up the warranty on their devices, > > controllers, servers, etc because to have it fail and either the > > replacement cost or downtime exposure is pretty steep. The renewal cost > > on the licenses is paying for the service. If you factor the cost of a > > Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc by the time you pay for the AP's, the > > controller and license cost I am pretty sure you would be very close to > the > > cost over 3 years. > > > > At least we were when we checked it over Ruckus on 3 years. > > > > *Greg Sweers* > > > > CEO > > > > *ACTS360.com <http://www.acts360.com/>*** > > > > *P.O. Box 1193* > > > > *Brandon, FL 33509* > > > > *813-657-0849 Office* > > > > *813-644-3479 Cell* > > > > > > From: Adam Greene <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: "[email protected]" < > > [email protected]> > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013 9:27 AM > > To: "[email protected]" < > > [email protected]> > > Subject: RE: Meraki > > > > I wonder if after 3 years you just lose the ability to manage it via > > the cloud. It seems pretty bad that the device itself would stop working > if > > you don’t renew the license. > > > > > > > > *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] > > *Sent:* Friday, March 15, 2013 7:57 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* RE: Meraki > > > > > > > > Yes but at the end of 3 years you have to renew the license or the device > > will stop passing traffic. At least that is what the sales drone told me. > > I still don't know a lot of homeowners or mom & pop SMB's that will buy > > into something that requires this type of commitment or yearly price. I > > will know better after I do my evaluation but I don't see it happening > long > > term. Once I am finished with my evaluation I get the lovely chore of > > passing my findings to my boss here at work for him to think about. We > are > > not that commited to doing wireless except for BOD and certain officers at > > only certain locations. This looked like something they would think about > > but with the yearly cost I don't know. > > > > Jon > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > From: [email protected] > > Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:03:56 -0400 > > Subject: Re: Meraki > > To: [email protected] > > > > My understanding was that the devices came with a 3 YEAR cloud license... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *ASB > > **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>* > > **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) > > for the SMB market…* > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Jon Harris <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > After a little talking to a sales drone (quite nice they let me initiate > > the conversation) I found out that if the Cloud Management License lapses > > by 90+ days then the AP will stop passing traffic. I don't know yet if > > that would be good thing or bad. I guess I will have to actually do some > > testing of the device they are shipping me to see if it is worth the MSRP > > of $150/AP/year. I can't see this for homeowners or even a lot of mom & > > pop SMBs. I don't think they will be willing to fork over the year fee. > > > > Jon > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: Meraki > > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:23:41 +0000 > > > > > > > > I love the Meraki AP’s. We have 40+ over multiple clients. Easy > > management, great performance. We had have replaced clients that were > > having horrible issues with Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc.. Not because the > > equipment was bad, but because the reseller sold it without the proper > > controllers, or told them they could manage multiple sites from a web > page, > > when in fact they had to connect to the controller locally at each site to > > manage…. Fortunately almost all of them were able to return their > products > > to reseller or direct. > > > > Setup the info on the dashboard. SSID, policies, etc.. > > Connect your laptop to the Meraki, set the IP/connection info, plug in to > > POE or injector and 2 mins later you are on and connected. Seamless > > roaming across a 12000 sqft facility with multiple walls, offices, floors. > > We have had what we think was just a bad manufacturing batch because about > > 4 in a one month period arrived, plugged in and promptly (3 -4 mins) > > fried. Different locations… But since then no issues. Prompt RMA > service > > also.. > > > > Now the Firewalls…Same interface, excellent performance. Seriously > > lacking on features and granular controls. Sonicwall, Watchguard have > them > > beat hands down. Needs polishing on the usability of the interface as > > well. We are actively involved with their development team as we have > some > > of their higher end stuff in our datacenter and I am unable to meet some > > client application needs, but I am hopeful for some resolutions. In the > > meantime I had to install my old Sonicwall 2040 to get around it. > > If you are just looking for basic firewall and don’t need a lot of > higher > > end firewall features the single management interface for everything is > > really nice. Automatic Site to Site with WAN Acceleration, Failover, etc > > are all included. > > > > The switches have some huge promise too. We only have one at a client due > > to price.. Definitely not the cheapest when you can get a 24 port HP 1910 > > for 400 bucks vs 1100+… > > > > > > *Greg Sweers* > > CEO > > *ACTS360.com <http://www.acts360.com/>* > > *P.O. Box 1193* > > *Brandon, FL 33509* > > *813-657-0849 Office* > > *813-644-3479 Cell* > > *813-644-3476 Fax* > > > > > > > > *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:[email protected]] > > *Sent:* Monday, March 11, 2013 8:56 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* RE: Meraki > > > > > > We're looking at Meraki for our two manufacturing facilities. Here at > > HQ we installed Cisco wireless last year. I've been trying to get Cisco > to > > buy back the equipment so it would be Meraki everywhere. So far no luck - > > seems like they are pretty much separate companies. I'm still hopeful > > since I like the meraki management. > > > > > > *From:* Patrick Salmon [mailto:[email protected]] > > *Sent:* Friday, March 08, 2013 4:38 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* OT: Meraki > > > > > > Since it came up the other week (and with full disclosure: I am a Cisco > > employee and Meraki is now a part of Cisco), anybody want a free AP? Yeah. > > Free. > > > > > > > > Follow link. sign up. Participate in webinar. Validate shipping details. > > Done. Before I get spanked, it is limited to NA and EU so apologies to > > anyone outside those geos. > > > > > > > > 802.11n, fully cloud-managed with a 3-yr subscription. Setup is a breeze. > > > > > > > > I did this a couple of months ago and was very happy with the MR16 they > > sent (I'm pretty certain that's the $699 one referenced in the link) and > > when I certified (SE's and Cisco partners only) they replaced it with the > > MR24 (more radios) added the NGFW and POE Switch. My home network is now > > entirely Meraki and while I have incentive to be somewhat biased have > found > > it to be uber cool in its own right. Kinda harks back to the good old days > > when you could get Cisco t-shirts and books just by finding the right > link; > > this is one such link, and you're welcome ;-) > > > > > > > > Link here: http://www.meraki.com/freeap > > > > > > > > Pat. > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to [email protected] > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to [email protected] > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to [email protected] > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to [email protected] > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to [email protected] > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to [email protected] > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to [email protected] > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to [email protected] > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to [email protected] > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to [email protected] > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
