Meh. I don't buy the cost thing. For one, the HP and brother printers I also
have here don't even get a chance to get through the toner cartridges before
the printer expires them. The brother unit I researched and another
disgusted person with the same printer actually cracked his toner open and
said it was easily 2/3 full still.  A little low tech hax0ring with some
whiteout and I've been using that same toner that the printer said was empty
for thousands of prints still. The HP2600n I have at least offers (a not
obvious) feature in the menu to disable the warnings and allow you to use
the toner until the prints start getting dim. I easily get hundreds of
prints still with those toners. I don't have the numbers in my head anymore,
but the rated prints HP says a toner cartridge is capable of is outright
lying in my opinion.

In contrast we also have a Xerox 6180DN that's toner based, and we kept
close track of toner usage and percentage of color and b/w coverage and so
far the rated prints for the Xerox toners are pretty accurate.

And actually yes, we have had our 6180 in need of repair. It was under
warranty though and they overnighted the part no questions asked with a
prepaid box to ship the old part back in. You don't get small units fixed
you replace them when they break out of warranty.
 
-- 
Mike Gill


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 12:39 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Multi-function printer recommendations
> 
> Plus the crayons (as I call them) cost a fortune, and the prints can
> easily
> scratch, although I have to hand it to Xerox, the prints are very
> brilliant,
> the best, deepest, most pure color I've ever seen.  OTOH, have you ever
> had
> to have a Xerox machine fixed?  Bend the fark over, is their policy,
> because
> youre going to get it.
> 
> 
> 
> Phillip Partipilo
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
> Jupiter, Florida
> (561) 747-6107
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 3:32 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Multi-function printer recommendations
> 
> 
> 
> On 21 Mar 2008 at 11:22, Mike Gill  wrote:
> 
> > Xerox has a program where non-profits get an 8560DN MFP (solid ink)
> > for free
> 
> Biggest problem with the Xerox/Tektronix solid-wax printers is that in
> the
> summer here in Tucson, Arizona, if you leave papers printed with this
> ink in
> the car, the ink often melts ands stick the pages together.  Also, I've
> had
> a color-copying company tell me they won't copy solid-wax color
> printouts
> using their copiers because the wax melts on the feed rollers and both
> clogs
> them up and transfers to subsequent pages.
> 
> OTOH if you live in Minnesota this won't be a problem ...
> 
> --
> Angus Scott-Fleming
> GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
> 1-520-290-5038
> +-----------------------------------+
> 
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