Thanks all, now I don't feel so old. :P Considering my first computer was an
Apple IIe. 

Christopher J. Bosak
Vector Company
c. 847.603.4673
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"You need to install an RTFM Interface"
- B.O.F.H.

-----Original Message-----
From: Webb, Brian (Corp) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:58 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: for old timers

My 1st was a C64.  My first PC was a Zenith Z-171 sewing machine style
portable.  I went right for the top and bought 640KB of RAM to start
along with the dual 5 1/4 inch 360 K floppies and internal 2400 Baud
modem.  It weighed 15 pounds without the battery - I never bought a
battery as I just hauled it to where I needed it and then plugged it in.
The grey scale LCD was pretty bad in terms of contrast.  It was about
$1900 at the time (1986 I think).  I bought an Epson FX-85 for $400 or
$500 to go with it....

I remember I tried to buy 1 MB of RAM, but the motherboard would only
recognize 640KB.


-Brian


-----Original Message-----
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 2:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: for old timers

On 8 Apr 2008 at 23:52, Benjamin Zachary  wrote:  

> You know I was right on that page and flipped through it real quick 
> and went on to look up the original ibm pc and a bunch of other
things.

FWIW I still have an IBM XT on the shelf, monochrome monitor, IBM
keyboard, and all.  One of these days I'll have to see if it still boots
--before I put it up for sale on eBay ;-)

My first personally-owned PC was a Zenith Z-152, 4.77 MHz, 320k of RAM
and dual 360k floppies (320k/360k ? memory fades with time).  It cost me
over $3,000, with Microsoft Word 1.0 for DOS and an Okidata MicroLine
9-pin dot-matrix printer (which I still have).  My
brother-the-computer-scientist was jealous -- he worked at the local
university and "only" had 64k of workspace on the CDC mainframe.  

On Dec. 31 one year (don't you love the income tax?) I upgraded the
Z-152 to 640k RAM and a 7-MHz NEC V20 chip and added a $399 20-megabyte
full-height hard drive.  Ended up giving it to my kid's pre-school
loaded with reading and other 
teaching programs, all pre-Windows, of course.    

When I upgraded my 1200-baud modem to 2400-baud I had to find an
off-line Compuserve-forum-saving/reading program (OzCIS -- for the "old
timers" -- did anyone else here use it?) -- at 1200-baud I could read
the forums as they scrolled by, but at 2400-baud I could no longer keep
up.  Egad, I still remember my Compuserve ID: 75500,3223 and there's
even one Google "hit" on my CIS ID still remaining "out there":

    http://www.google.com/search?q=%2275500%2C3223%22

Anybody here remember TeamB for dBASE?

Angus

P.S. Yes, I have a (partially) grey beard -- not quite Sid Dabster but
"one of these days" I'll get there ;-)


--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
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