Well Ray [and all of us old "Wangers"], don't know if you ever went to
the towers but it is quite sad to see it now:

http://alum.wpi.edu/~tfraser/Stories/Wang/index.html

This bloke's site is quite interesting and has lots of old hardware for
those that are interested.

On the 09/04/2008 17:52, RAY ZORZ wrote the following:
I consider myself lucky that I didn't have to deal much with PC's.  I
started on mini's, including a kind of home grown Ti/990 based system, then moved to Wang systems, then moved to another proprietary IVR system. I barely utilized DOS machines. I did buy a 286 around the time the 386's came out. I can't remember what version of
 DOS it had.

"Tom Strader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4/9/2008 8:15 AM >>>
My Dad had the "Commode 64" (as he used to call it), that was when I
 was ohhh, 10 years old. I started on DOS 2.0. I miss DOS 5.0, it WAS
 revolutionary.


-----Original Message----- From: Nikki Peterson - OETX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 11:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: for old timers

Commodore-64, ran home, hooked it up to my tv. :) later I bought a 1721 tape drive. Very cool! I killed Grues that lived in dark places...

My first HD I don't remember the make, but, that's where I learned all about Directories, and why they are nice to have. (I installed everything on the c:/).

My first Windows program 1.0 at work, it had the coolest thing called
Program Manager where it showed you just the exe files that you could select and launch from (No menu had to be configured).

Dos 5.0 REVOLUTIONARY!!!!

Gosh, that was a while ago.

-----Original Message----- From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: for old timers

I still have at home an Osborne OS/1. The keyboard for that was actually the top of the case (handle bit) which unclipped. Dual 5 1/4imch floppy drives and about a 4 inch monocrome CRT.

-----Original Message----- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 April 2008 15:29 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: for old timers

Back in my day, the "laptops" were the size of a suitcase and called "luggables". Compaq's luggable had a small monochrome crt, about 4 or 5 inches.

As far as a command prompt is concerned, coming from a Novell environment, I always felt like you had to actually know what your were doing because of the CLI, as opposed to poking around with the mouse until you got lucky and found what you needed

-----Original Message----- From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:10
 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: for old timers


I still have a Toshiba T1000 Laptop, and it still works. It has one floppy (720K), no HD and 512K RAM (IIRC), and Dos 2.11 on ROM (with BASIC of some variety). On another note, I'm still using a 300 Baud modem (actually a 2400 Baud modem downgraded to 300 Baud) to connect
 to a fairly old PBX phone system to download logs.

But those were the days. We actually got quite a bit done on those old machines, and I still prefer a command prompt over Windows Explorer for many file functions. I'm sure I'm not the only one on this list like this. Showing my age...

Mark


-----Original Message----- From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: for old timers

On 8 Apr 2008 at 23:52, Benjamin Zachary  wrote:

You know I was right on that page and flipped through it real quick
 and went on to look up the original ibm pc and a bunch of other
things.

FWIW I still have an IBM XT on the shelf, monochrome monitor, IBM keyboard, and all. One of these days I'll have to see if it still boots --before I put it up for sale on eBay ;-)

My first personally-owned PC was a Zenith Z-152, 4.77 MHz, 320k of RAM and dual 360k floppies (320k/360k ? memory fades with time). It
 cost me over $3,000, with Microsoft Word 1.0 for DOS and an Okidata
MicroLine 9-pin dot-matrix printer (which I still have). My brother-the-computer-scientist was jealous -- he worked at the local university and "only" had 64k of workspace on the CDC mainframe.

On Dec. 31 one year (don't you love the income tax?) I upgraded the Z-152 to 640k RAM and a 7-MHz NEC V20 chip and added a $399 20-megabyte full-height hard drive. Ended up giving it to my kid's pre-school loaded with reading and other teaching programs, all pre-Windows, of course.

When I upgraded my 1200-baud modem to 2400-baud I had to find an off-line Compuserve-forum-saving/reading program (OzCIS -- for the "old timers" -- did anyone else here use it?) -- at 1200-baud I could read the forums as they scrolled by, but at 2400-baud I could no longer keep up. Egad, I still remember my Compuserve ID: 75500,3223
 and there's even one Google "hit" on my CIS ID still remaining "out
 there":

http://www.google.com/search?q=%2275500%2C3223%22

Anybody here remember TeamB for dBASE?

Angus

P.S. Yes, I have a (partially) grey beard -- not quite Sid Dabster but "one of these days" I'll get there ;-)


-- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 +-----------------------------------+


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