Micheal, you are right; just checked out the rooftop from Google Earth.
On my visits, I wasn't fortunate enough to arrive by helicopter but
had to use the front door...

One of my ex Wang colleagues told me that after the liquidation, the
towers were sold in 1992 for $500,000!

Wang Imaging was a very powerful set of applications ~ I wonder what
Kodak eventually did with it?  My favourite app was Wang Office.  The
entire country was networked and we already had "email" on our desktops
in the early 80s.

Do you know of the ELI Group in Cambridge?  Might be useful to the list
for used hardware.  My rep's name back then was Rick Gage as I remember.

http://www.eli.com

Took this picture of one of their techs "in his element":

http://petervdh.googlepages.com/home

On the 09/04/2008 20:02, Micheal Espinola Jr wrote the following:
Something to note about the old Wang tower: The building forms the letter W when seen from the sky. This was [I guess] to impress visitors flying in via the helipad on the roof.

I'm somewhat of a local and spent some time at Eastman Kodak which
was previously a software division at Wang before Kodak purchased it
and Wang completely dissolved into other entities.


On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Peter van Houten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Well Ray [and all of us old "Wangers"], don't know if you ever went
to the towers but it is quite sad to see it now:

http://alum.wpi.edu/~tfraser/Stories/Wang/index.html

This bloke's site is quite interesting and has lots of old hardware
for those that are interested.

On the 09/04/2008 17:52, RAY ZORZ wrote the following:

I consider myself lucky that I didn't have to deal much with
PC's.  I started on mini's, including a kind of home grown Ti/990
based system,
then moved to Wang systems, then moved to another proprietary
IVR system.   I barely utilized DOS machines.  I did buy a 286
around the
time the 386's came out.  I can't remember what version of
DOS it had.


"Tom Strader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4/9/2008 8:15 AM >>>

My Dad had the "Commode 64" (as he used to call it), that was
when I was ohhh, 10 years old. I started on DOS 2.0. I miss DOS
5.0, it WAS revolutionary.


-----Original Message----- From: Nikki Peterson - OETX
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09,
2008 11:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: for old
timers

Commodore-64, ran home, hooked it up to my tv. :)  later I bought
a 1721
tape drive. Very cool! I killed Grues that lived in dark places...
My first HD I don't remember the make, but, that's where I
learned all
about Directories, and why they are nice to have. (I installed
everything on the c:/).
My first Windows program 1.0 at work, it had the coolest thing
called Program Manager where it showed you just the exe files
that you could
select and launch from (No menu had to be configured).
Dos 5.0 REVOLUTIONARY!!!!

Gosh, that was a while ago.

-----Original Message----- From: Ames Matthew B
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To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: for old timers

I still have at home an Osborne OS/1.  The keyboard for that was
actually
the top of the case (handle bit) which unclipped.  Dual 5 1/4imch
floppy drives and about a 4 inch monocrome CRT.
-----Original Message----- From: Kim Longenbaugh
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 April 2008 15:29 To: NT
System Admin Issues Subject: RE: for old timers

Back in my day, the "laptops" were the size of a suitcase and
called
"luggables".  Compaq's luggable had a small monochrome crt, about 4
or 5 inches.
As far as a command prompt is concerned, coming from a Novell
environment,
I always felt like you had to actually know what your were doing
because of the CLI, as opposed to poking around with the mouse
until you got lucky and found what you needed
-----Original Message----- From: Reimer, Mark
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008
9:10
AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: for old timers



I still have a Toshiba T1000 Laptop, and it still works. It has
one floppy
(720K), no HD and 512K RAM (IIRC), and Dos 2.11 on ROM (with BASIC
of some variety). On another note, I'm still using a 300 Baud modem
(actually a 2400 Baud modem downgraded to 300 Baud) to connect
to a fairly old PBX phone system to download logs.

But those were the days. We actually got quite a bit done on
those old
machines, and I still prefer a command prompt over Windows Explorer
for many file functions. I'm sure I'm not the only one on this list
like this. Showing my age...
Mark


-----Original Message----- From: Angus Scott-Fleming
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:45
AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: for old timers

On 8 Apr 2008 at 23:52, Benjamin Zachary  wrote:


You know I was right on that page and flipped through it real
quick and went on to look up the original ibm pc and a bunch of
other

things.

FWIW I still have an IBM XT on the shelf, monochrome monitor, IBM

keyboard, and all.  One of these days I'll have to see if it still
boots --before I put it up for sale on eBay ;-)
My first personally-owned PC was a Zenith Z-152, 4.77 MHz, 320k
of RAM and
dual 360k floppies (320k/360k ? memory fades with time).  It
cost me over $3,000, with Microsoft Word 1.0 for DOS and an
Okidata MicroLine 9-pin dot-matrix printer (which I still have).
My
brother-the-computer-scientist was jealous -- he worked at the
local university and "only" had 64k of workspace on the CDC
mainframe.
On Dec. 31 one year (don't you love the income tax?) I upgraded
the Z-152
to 640k RAM and a 7-MHz NEC V20 chip and added a $399 20-megabyte full-height hard drive. Ended up giving it to my kid's pre-school
loaded with reading and other teaching programs, all pre-Windows,
of course.
When I upgraded my 1200-baud modem to 2400-baud I had to find an
off-line
Compuserve-forum-saving/reading program (OzCIS -- for the "old
timers" -- did anyone else here use it?) -- at 1200-baud I could
read the forums as they scrolled by, but at 2400-baud I could no
longer
keep up.  Egad, I still remember my Compuserve ID: 75500,3223
and there's even one Google "hit" on my CIS ID still remaining
"out there":

http://www.google.com/search?q=%2275500%2C3223%22

Anybody here remember TeamB for dBASE?

Angus

P.S. Yes, I have a (partially) grey beard -- not quite Sid
Dabster but
"one of these days" I'll get there ;-)

-- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038
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