TCO for the most part is how much money you dump into a printer over a year
divided by the number of prints you get out of it. Configuration headaches
and reliability aside, this will tell you what each sheet costs. If you're
going to weigh in with these guys you need that number, because that's how
they operate with their billing. It shouldn't take you more than a few
minutes to figure this out if you have any kind of records at all on your
printers. At our office I tell the secretaries to take a meter reading each
time they change a toner. After you go through a couple toners you should
have an idea how much a print costs from how long that $200 toner lasted.
This is a little more difficult with a color unit but not by much.

 

I've said this here before, but what I found out was that our HP printers
were not lasting anywhere near the rated amount of prints, but the Xerox
units were very close. At $.02/print (B/W right?) they must be talking small
workgroup printers. You're going to achieve that cost on your own because it
sounds like maintenance isn't an issue for you. But for a larger MFP unit,
you should be looking at pricing around $.008 or less per sheet (B/W). It
boils down to some pretty simple math. We print about 20K/mo on our MFP and
it's a 55ppm leased unit. I wouldn't do it any other way for something like
that. Most copy guys are below slimy used car salesmen so you still need to
do some research to get a good company. And don't ever get an agreement over
3 years. Technology moves to fast and you'll be wanting new units with the
new bells and whistles but won't be able to get one if you're locked in too
long. And ask them how they handle lemons. Leasing a printer is like leasing
a car. A lot of these outfits can't easily replace a printer when you get a
lemon because the printer (linked with serial number) is actually financed
through a bank, not them.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 7:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: printer maintenance contracts?

 

Wow!

Thank you so much for the feedback.  

They really confused the heck out of us with the numbers they threw out.

"Did you know you're TCO is xxxx?"

- But they have a hard time proving it.

"Did you know your actual cost per page is xxxx?"

- But they have a hard time proving that as well.

"We can save you xxx over the life or your printers"

- But the additional expense is what we could buy a new printer for?

"Parts and labor are what your paying for"

- But we have 30+ HP printers, and have only had to replace 1 fuser in 5
years?!?!

 

I know I am probably jinxing myself by posting this, and will be running
around fixing printers over the next weeks!

LOL

 

 

 

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From: Robert LeBlanc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: printer maintenance contracts?

 

We just terminated our contract and will be saving about 1500.00 a month. We
are now on the same page as others and will just replace as needed.

 

Robert

 

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From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 7:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: printer maintenance contracts?

 

I was wondering how many people subscribe to a printer maintenance contract?

We have never done this, and are now being presented w/ a proposal to put
all our laser printers under a 3 year contract for toner, maintenance and
labor for a monthly fee.

Traditionally, if a laser printer craps out, we would just toss it and buy a
replacement.

This company is trying to tell us they can "save" us money by putting the
printers under a contract that basically comes out to $.02/page.

But if we look at strictly toner costs alone, the monthly maintenance charge
is more than we are spending now on just toner.

IIRC, the extra money we would be paying per month for maintenance could
just as easily be used to purchase a new printer about every 2 months.

Thoughts, comments, suggestions welcome.

Thx

 

 

 

 

 

 

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