FINALLY - I thought I'd have to hijack my own thread here!  Although I 
appreciate knowing that cheap fast ethernet switches have worked for some 
folks, it really doesn't answer my question...

I forgot to mention that, yes, we shall be needing POE.

So, back to my dilemma...  We do have a stack of 3 Cisco 10/100 switches. 
Although they are managable, it seems we have "lost that ability".  They 
are not POE, although we have a little gizmo that sends POE to my desk for 
a little "outlet ethernet switch".  The thing about the Catalysts is, 
we've never needed to manage them, and they've been "hang 'em in the rack 
and forget about them".

We are an incoming call center which handles about 450 veteranary 
emergency toxicology cases PER DAY.  At the busy times, we do seem to need 
the additional through-put of the Gig switches.

SO, our installers suggest Cisco.  Our IT folks at national headquarters 
suggest Extreme Black Diamond.

So, again please, does anyone have any personal experience with both Cisco 
and Extreme and could make some recommendations?

Thanks!
--------------------------------------
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"Cesare' A. Ramos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 04/17/2008 07:55:53 PM:

> Agreed with past posts with regards to the 1GB thought.
> 
> We have rolled out Asterisk, 3Com NBX, 3Com VXC, Avaya, and Cisco. 
> Never saw the need for 1GB switches at all end points.  But would 
> highly recommend POE functionality.
> 
> As per switch, I am on the same snob group as Phil.  I go ballistic 
> whenever I see or hear an office running a DLink, Netgear, or 
> Belkin.  We have had great success with 3Com (primarily 3Com 4500 
> POE family) and Cisco.  Of course 3Com is a bit lower in cost then 
Cisco.
> 
> Lates.
> 
> CAR
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 1:17 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: GB switches
> 
> Perhaps a wee bit OT, and I know there are some of you who sell and 
> service Cisco.  However...
> 
> Currently most of our network is on fast ethernet.  (We have a couple of 

> racks, each of which has a small GB switch to tie the servers in that 
rack 
> together.)
> 
> We are soon to dump our NEC PBX and go with VOIP.  (It will _not_ be 
Cisco 
> or Avaya VOIP.)  We need more robust switches...
> 
> Currently, we have about 100 desks, each with an XP Pro PC and a phone. 
We 
> will be going with VOIP phones (Polycom) rather than "soft phones".
> 
> NOW, although we have some of their products and appreciate them, none 
of 
> us are "Cisco people", either by devotion or in knowing how to manage 
> them.  We have some folks recommending Cisco GB switches.  We have 
another 
> group recommending (highly, and some of them are our equivalent in the 
NYC 
> office) Extreme Networks BlackDiamond switches.
> 
> Does anyone "out there" have enough experience with the products of both 

> companies to be able to tell us the advantages of each?  For example, 
> might the Extremes be easier for a non-certified user to do port 
> management?  Anyone come across any tests as far as reliablility (both 
for 
> HW failure and for dropped packets), etc?
> 
> Thanks!
> --------------------------------------
> Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
> ASPCA Knowledge Management
> 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
> 217-337-9761
> http://www.aspca.org
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