Well, FWIW I have a 50-employee client that I have them on all Dell equipment (servers, desktops and managed switches) that looks like they qualify, I'll let y'all know how it goes.
Dave From: Tim Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GB switches I haven't yet, but I'm seriously considering it. The only catch I can see is that you agree to be used as a reference or in a press release. ...Tim From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GB switches OK what's the catch? I can't believe they're handing those out for advertising...and yes, I read the terms on the bottom. Has anyone signed up for this? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 "When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" -----Original Message----- From: Tim Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GB switches Just ran across this: http://www.dlink.com/business/test-drive/ Yes, I know it's D-Link, but you can't beat the price - free. ...Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:04 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: GB switches > > Another alternative would be Enterasys. Used them for 5 years at my > last job, and loved them. Hadn't heard of the Extreme switches until > you asked about it, so can't give you input there, but if the cli is > LESS intuitive than Cisco, which in my opinion isn't intuitive at all, > then that could be a major downside... > > > Joe Heaton > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 6:45 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: GB switches > > At the risk of starting another of those religious debates about switch > vendors, I'd suggest you also look into the Nortel Enterprise Router > Switch offerings. Their gear is very robust, they have great technical > support, and their switches have a variety of management options > including a web gui, a Java Device Manager that is very intuitive, and > a > command line option that is similar enough to Crisco that most people > can learn it quickly. > And, their pricing is competitive. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Adam Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 8:31 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: GB switches > > > Richard, > > Have not used the Extreme Black Diamond in particular, however, 4-5 > years > back, we did decide to try the Extreme Summit series as an alternative > to > Cisco for some of our core infrastructure. We were attracted by the > price: > at that time, Cisco didn't have an affordable layer 3 switch -- this > was > > just before the 3550 was being released, if I remember correctly. We > found > the Extreme OS to be less intuitive than the Cisco IOS, and we > experienced > various minor issues with simple things like interface speed / duplex > negotiation. Sometimes the telnet CLI would freeze up on the Extreme > when > making config changes. Here and there there were features which Extreme > simply didn't support. We found ourselves saying, "If only this were a > Cisco > switch," and having to support and train engineers on both Cisco and > Extreme > didn't make sense for us. > > As a result of the frustrations with Extreme, after deploying 3-4 of > them, > we decided to take them all back out of production and replace them > with > > Cisco 2960 / 3560 / 3750. > > Good luck obtaining further feedback!! > Adam > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 8:24 AM > Subject: RE: GB switches > > > > FINALLY - I thought I'd have to hijack my own thread here! Although > I > > appreciate knowing that cheap fast ethernet switches have worked for > some > > folks, it really doesn't answer my question... > > > > I forgot to mention that, yes, we shall be needing POE. > > > > So, back to my dilemma... We do have a stack of 3 Cisco 10/100 > switches. > > Although they are managable, it seems we have "lost that ability". > They > > are not POE, although we have a little gizmo that sends POE to my > desk > for > > a little "outlet ethernet switch". The thing about the Catalysts is, > > we've never needed to manage them, and they've been "hang 'em in the > rack > > and forget about them". > > > > We are an incoming call center which handles about 450 veteranary > > emergency toxicology cases PER DAY. At the busy times, we do seem to > need > > the additional through-put of the Gig switches. > > > > SO, our installers suggest Cisco. Our IT folks at national > headquarters > > suggest Extreme Black Diamond. > > > > So, again please, does anyone have any personal experience with both > Cisco > > and Extreme and could make some recommendations? > > > > Thanks! > > -------------------------------------- > > Richard McClary, Systems Administrator > > ASPCA Knowledge Management > > 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 > > 217-337-9761 > > http://www.aspca.org > > > > > > "Cesare' A. Ramos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 04/17/2008 07:55:53 > PM: > > > >> Agreed with past posts with regards to the 1GB thought. > >> > >> We have rolled out Asterisk, 3Com NBX, 3Com VXC, Avaya, and Cisco. > >> Never saw the need for 1GB switches at all end points. But would > >> highly recommend POE functionality. > >> > >> As per switch, I am on the same snob group as Phil. I go ballistic > >> whenever I see or hear an office running a DLink, Netgear, or > >> Belkin. We have had great success with 3Com (primarily 3Com 4500 > >> POE family) and Cisco. Of course 3Com is a bit lower in cost then > > Cisco. > >> > >> Lates. > >> > >> CAR > >> Phone: 305-443-0331 xt. 1202 > >> Mobile: 786-412-1746 > >> Fax: 305-443-0350 > >> e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> BB Pin: 23E727FF > >> AIM: cramosMIA > >> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Yahoo: cramosMIA > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 1:17 PM > >> To: NT System Admin Issues > >> Subject: GB switches > >> > >> Perhaps a wee bit OT, and I know there are some of you who sell and > >> service Cisco. However... > >> > >> Currently most of our network is on fast ethernet. (We have a > couple > of > > > >> racks, each of which has a small GB switch to tie the servers in > that > > rack > >> together.) > >> > >> We are soon to dump our NEC PBX and go with VOIP. (It will _not_ be > > Cisco > >> or Avaya VOIP.) We need more robust switches... > >> > >> Currently, we have about 100 desks, each with an XP Pro PC and a > phone. > > We > >> will be going with VOIP phones (Polycom) rather than "soft phones". > >> > >> NOW, although we have some of their products and appreciate them, > none > > of > >> us are "Cisco people", either by devotion or in knowing how to > manage > >> them. We have some folks recommending Cisco GB switches. We have > > another > >> group recommending (highly, and some of them are our equivalent in > the > > NYC > >> office) Extreme Networks BlackDiamond switches. > >> > >> Does anyone "out there" have enough experience with the products of > both > > > >> companies to be able to tell us the advantages of each? For > example, > >> might the Extremes be easier for a non-certified user to do port > >> management? Anyone come across any tests as far as reliablility > (both > > for > >> HW failure and for dropped packets), etc? > >> > >> Thanks! > >> -------------------------------------- > >> Richard McClary, Systems Administrator > >> ASPCA Knowledge Management > >> 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 > >> 217-337-9761 > >> http://www.aspca.org > >> > >> > >> ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ > >> ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ > >> > >> ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ > >> ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ > > > > > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~
