> Walk in my shoes and then decide if punishing a Mac user like that is or
is not therapeutic.

Sir, I would kindly suggest that if you have an adversarial relationship
with your users, where you look at punishment and reward as a means for
governing your userbase and as therapy, that you might be better served:

a) getting a real therapist
b) changing careers

Cheers,
- Durf

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am just tired of listening to Mac heads make up wild stories.  Paying $5k
> for a laptop that is a Mac when a top of the line laptop workstation goes
> for well under $4k.  On top of that being forced to have staff that spend
> 25% of their time fixing things that if the user had gone with a Windows
> machine would not be problems.  Walk in my shoes and then decide if
> punishing a Mac user like that is or is not therapeutic.  At least they have
> a reason for crashing monitoring systems instead of telling me they do not
> have SNMP running on their Mac or having to purchase a bunch of USB drives
> because the user can't get FTP to function on a Mac.
>
> Jon
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Mike Gill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>>  So you're saying when a new hire comes in with the preference of a Mac,
>> your first move is to put them on a long ago EOL operating system which had
>> no security to begin with, to which they are completely unfamiliar with, and
>> wait to see what happens after 30 days? And you have a person who spends 10
>> hours a week fixing alleged problems with a single Mac (you said user, not
>> users) being on the network? I thought you were kidding in your first email
>> but here is the second. You're doing something wrong guy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Putting them on an XP machine would kill you? Or possibly just spending a
>> couple days learning something new is out of the question? And don't tell me
>> you don't have the time if you're honest about rebuilding computers with
>> Win9x on them. If you have time to do that you have time to learn something
>> new.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mike Gill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 23, 2008 9:39 AM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Mac on 2003 Domain
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't want my Mac user RDPing into anything.  He is a big enough issue I
>> don't need servers crashing because of his need to use a Mac.  We have one
>> person on staff that spends about 25% of his time just fixing the files that
>> "work just great on the Mac" but will not work right on a Windows system.
>> My boss is fully aware of this and just smiles when the Mac user makes wild
>> claims and moans about no one supporting Macs.
>>
>>
>>
>> Like I said put them on a Windows 98 system and make them prove they can
>> run it before spending the money on a Mac.  Ours could not run the Windows
>> 98 system for more than 30 days before we had to rebuild it.
>>
>>
>


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