[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a good group to join.

btw, I agree with your pricing model. It's what makes the American Dream 
possible, causes competition, creates opportunities, fosters innovation, 
and in the long term causes better service.

David Lum wrote:
>
> I thought you were addressing me, but wasn't sure J.  The gig in 
> question is a small local government client and I actually pride 
> myself in being able to come in cheaper than they budget for (yes they 
> actually tell me what their IT budget is and include me in budgeting 
> talks) year to year. Making $20K/year on about 6 hours/week (remote 
> work is 25% cheaper for them) is a pretty sweet deal and is more than 
> a minimum wage job at 40hrs/week ($16.2K/yr currently in Oregon). 
> Between my level of service and my 
> probably-lower-than-what-they-would-pay prices pretty much guarantees 
> nobody will come along and take that client from me...
>
>  
>
> A nice benefit is due to the excellent working relationship with them 
> on any single given month I could add ~$1,000 of income....there's 
> always SOMETHING that can be done. It also helps that all that work is 
> my "secondary" income as NWEA here is my 40hr/week job, so I don't 
> need to optimize my personal business' income.
>
>  
>
> Is there a mailing list that discusses the small business side of IT? 
> I'm sure this isn't the correct forum...
>
>  
>
> */Dave Lum/*  - Systems Engineer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
> /"../remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by 
> riding the back of the tiger ended up inside/"//  - JFK///
>
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>
>  
>
> *From:* R. Mac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:20 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Support fee
>
>  
>
> Sorry Dave Lum,
>            I was speaking in response to your 420 p/sys-p/year. But I 
> retract my comment about bringing down the market seeing that its just 
> 2-3 calls per day average. But if you take your 420 p/sys-p/year for 
> total number of machines (47) you get just under 20k (19.74). In my 
> example if 2-3 calls a day = 1 hour per day w/252 business days a year 
> you can gross a couple extra thousand. 22.6k. (and that is excluding 
> any extra off hour or holiday numbers but i am not sure if you have 
> any of that factored into your math either) but still a nice gig you have.
>
> Regards,
>
> Roy MacDonald
>  
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 1:27 PM, David Lum <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
> Which David are you talking to?
>
>  
>
> */Dave Lum/*  - Systems Engineer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - (971)-222-1025
> /"../remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by 
> riding the back of the tiger ended up inside/"//  - JFK/
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* R. Mac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:30 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Support fee
>
>  
>
> David,
>          Your bringing the market down with the crazy accounting you 
> got going on.....$90hr minimum with a 2 hour minimum for on-site work. 
> Toss in a one way travel fee (unless the customer establishes a 
> retainer account with you usually min of 2k) Plus a 30 min per phone 
> call fee. (first 2 free if you like the client)
>
> Just my 2 cents~!
>
> Roy MacDonald
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Jim Majorowicz 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
> David, with that kind of volume it sounds like you need to hire an 
> on-site support tech unless your contract renewal is less than $3K a 
> month.  Even at 15-min a call, that's 2-3 hours a day.  That's $300 a 
> day at our "Good Customer" support rate in PDX, by the time you add in 
> the server and onsite support, you've got to be looking at a $6K/mo 
> bill.  You telling me you can't find a reasonably compitant support 
> tech for less than $25/hr plus bennifits?  Hell, you could probably 
> get a recient ITT grad for $20-$22 and he'd be glad for the job....
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* Liu, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 28, 2008 6:09 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Support fee
>
>  
>
> A day,
>
> I wish it were per month :)
> David Liu
> Answering from my blackberry. I'm on the move
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael B. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: Wed May 28 09:06:43 2008
> Subject: RE: Support fee
>
> A day? A week? A month?
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> MCSE/Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Liu, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 8:53 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Support fee
>
> Average 8-12 calls.  
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:21 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Support fee
> >
> > I would want to know how many calls.
> >
> > Depending on the userbase, 40 people can either consume almost-none of
> > my
> > time or 100% of my time.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael B. Smith
> > MCSE/Exchange MVP
> > http://TheEssentialExchange.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Liu, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:04 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Support fee
> >
> > A question for the consultants/support for-hire folks out there:
> >
> > What's the ballpark monthly fee you wd charge for a userbase of 40 in
> > California (30 PC/10 Macs) , 90% desktop support + level one call
> > fielding, 10% light maintenance on 3 Windows File Server, 1 DC, 1
> Print
> > Server  (e..g powercycling boxes if they cannot be brought up after a
> > remote reboot, basic AD user administration of locking/unlocking
> accts,
> > tape rotations given most AD administration/maintenance/support is
> done
> > centrally at the headquarters) ?
> >
> > Do you charge per head or per machine?
> >
> > I'm asking as we are currently faced with having to renew a contract
> > with an outside vendor & I want to see what's considered reasonable
> > market price for CA.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your input,
> >
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