Two months. That's right, two $*#!!*$ months. Still getting a BSOD on my Trend 
8.0 server without generating any .dmp files. I've spent probably 25 hours or 
so with Trend and MS tech support. Webex sessions, specialists, conference 
calls, tin foil hats, barking at the moon. Updated BIOS, Perc, Nic, video, RAID 
drivers. UN-installed the Trend client from the server. Only Trend Service 
running is the Master Service. Nothing else on the server except a print queue 
that myself and one other person uses on a fairly limited basis. Any thoughts 
or suggestions appreciated. In the interim, I'm going to go stick a pencil in 
my eye. Thanks for letting me rant.
Steve

-------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- 
From: "Terry Dickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]> 
Subject: RE: Trend 8.0 server hang 
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:24:03 +0000 

Good question, but also how do you have Windows Updates set, do you have 
automatic updates turned on? 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:00 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Trend 8.0 server hang 

Steve-when you say patched, do you mean the OSC server has been patched 
with Trend's patch 2 or 3 (3 just came out yesterday), or are you 
talking about Windows patches? There are some serious problems prior to 
patch1. 



If it is all patched up from Trend, make sure you have automatically 
restart unchecked (control panel, system, advanced, startup and recovery 
settings). That way if it is BSOD'ing, you can see the screen in the 
morning. 



One other thing I've seen with Trend (both 7.x and 8.x) is kernel memory 
issues (again, mostly prior to the latest patches, but I haven't tried 
patch3 yet). During the time your server is "hung", can you RDP to the 
console session? If it kicks you back to the server name screen, or 
gives you a strange error about session 0, I'd put money on a kernel 
memory issue. We've found we pretty much can't use the /3GB switch in 
the boot.ini when we see this happening, but it also can take some 
registry tuning. Another way to troubleshoot on this is to try and 
RDP-if it fails, connect remotely with computer management to the 
server. Stop the Officescan realtime scanner service, and RDP will 
generally start working. Still takes a reboot to clear the problem, but 
that would also indicate the kernel mem issue. If you leave the system 
long enough, it will eventually BSOD. 



-Bonnie 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 6:46 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Trend 8.0 server hang 



Fresh install of Office Scan 8.0 patched on a fresh W2K3 standard server 
SP1. Serve reboots or hangs usually around 1-3 AM intermittantly. No 
memory dumps, no event log info other than the reboot was unexpected. 
This morning, server appeared to be up and running but could not get any 
programs or desktop icons to respond. Hard reboot was needed. Event 
viewer states unexpected reboot at 1:03 AM but server appeared to be up 
and running. Any one else encountered anything like this? I will call 
Trend (again) but my phone system coughed up a large hair ball overnight 
so I thought I'd throw this out to the list. Thanks. 

Steve 








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