Ugh... the only other thing *like* this I've seen with Trend (and A/V in 
general) is usually kernel memory related.  If your server has enough free 
memory, try upping the pool amount available by adding the two reg entries from 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/312362/en-us.

I've had to up these values on most of our systems that are a) file servers, b) 
run file level A/V, c) run VSS, and sometimes d) also use quota software (FSRM 
in our case).  Basically it's just a lot of stuff crammed into the kernel 
memory space.  The first symptom I usually see when the kernel memory starts to 
run low is that I'll try to RDP to the server, but the interface just kicks me 
back to the screen where you enter the server name, with no errors.  If it goes 
long enough, the console itself will become sluggish to unresponsive, and 
eventually the server will crash altogether, sometimes giving me a BSOD and 
other times not.

One other note, you can't be using the /3GB switch in your boot.ini either as 
it limits the kernel memory space.  I went through this one with Trend on 
version 7.3, but it still applies to 8.x.

There is a good way to view your kernel memory usage with a combination of 
using MS Sysinternals' Process Explorer while having the MS debugger tools 
loaded and pointing at the MS symbol server.  I can share more on this if you 
need a quick how-to, but I originally got this from Trend when troubleshooting 
this same issue on 7.3, so I would hope they (and MS) would know how to check 
for this sort of problem.

Good luck,
-Bonnie


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 6:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Trend 8.0 server hang - revisiting

Two months. That's right, two $*#!!*$ months. Still getting a BSOD on my Trend 
8.0 server without generating any .dmp files. I've spent probably 25 hours or 
so with Trend and MS tech support. Webex sessions, specialists, conference 
calls, tin foil hats, barking at the moon. Updated BIOS, Perc, Nic, video, RAID 
drivers. UN-installed the Trend client from the server. Only Trend Service 
running is the Master Service. Nothing else on the server except a print queue 
that myself and one other person uses on a fairly limited basis. Any thoughts 
or suggestions appreciated. In the interim, I'm going to go stick a pencil in 
my eye. Thanks for letting me rant.
Steve

-------------- Forwarded Message: --------------
From: "Terry Dickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Trend 8.0 server hang
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:24:03 +0000

Good question, but also how do you have Windows Updates set, do you have
automatic updates turned on?

-----Original Message-----
From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Trend 8.0 server hang

Steve-when you say patched, do you mean the OSC server has been patched
with Trend's patch 2 or 3 (3 just came out yesterday), or are you
talking about Windows patches? There are some serious problems prior to
patch1.



If it is all patched up from Trend, make sure you have a utomatically
restart unchecked (control panel, system, advanced, startup and recovery
settings). That way if it is BSOD'ing, you can see the screen in the
morning.



One other thing I've seen with Trend (both 7.x and 8.x) is kernel memory
issues (again, mostly prior to the latest patches, but I haven't tried
patch3 yet). During the time your server is "hung", can you RDP to the
console session? If it kicks you back to the server name screen, or
gives you a strange error about session 0, I'd put money on a kernel
memory issue. We've found we pretty much can't use the /3GB switch in
the boot.ini when we see this happening, but it also can take some
registry tuning. Another way to troubleshoot on this is to try and
RDP-if it fails, connect remotely with computer management to the
server. Stop the Officescan realtime scanner service, and RDP will
generally start working. Still takes a reboot to clear the problem, b ut
that would also indicate the kernel mem issue. If you leave the system
long enough, it will eventually BSOD.



-Bonnie



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 6:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Trend 8.0 server hang



Fresh install of Office Scan 8.0 patched on a fresh W2K3 standard server
SP1. Serve reboots or hangs usually around 1-3 AM intermittantly. No
memory dumps, no event log info other than the reboot was unexpected.
This morning, server appeared to be up and running but could not get any
programs or desktop icons to respond. Hard reboot was needed. Event
viewer states unexpected reboot at 1:03 AM but server appeared to be up
and running. Any one else encountered anything like this? I will call
Trend (again) but my phone system coughed up a large hair ball overnight
so I thought I'd throw this out to the list. Thanks.
< BR>Steve






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