If you consider how many companies in the past screwed themselves by being locked into the Lotus Notes framework, you would be wise to make such considerations about other limited-compatibility products as well.
Even if Lotus Notes worked for you, there was a continuous financial investment that likely could have been better invested elsewhere at a certain point. I'm not nay-saying the value of Sharepoint, but Kurt makes a point that you should consider. Microsoft's continued stance in not supporting browser compatibility is quite shortsighted. I know from security testing that I would definitely prefer my users to use Firefox. I wish I could be complacent in the use of IE, but its just not practical in my organization where I have to allow my users to investigate information online. This directly translates to home use - which is where the majority of the worlds phishing/trojan/zombie issues now lay. On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ban SharePoint because it doesn't work with 3rd party browsers? That's just > not a real bright statement. SharePoint solves business problems, browsers > don't. > > And it certainly is not Microsoft's only way of making money. > Tim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:47 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day > > I think it would instead be a reason why SharePoint would be banned > from your network... > > After all, any vendor whose only way of making a buck is to get > customers locked in by destroying compatibility with standards > shouldn't be encouraged, now should it? > > Heh. > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Don Ely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> SharePoint is most certainly not FF friendly which is why FF will be banned >> from our network... >> >> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Ben Schorr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Do all sites work in it? That's been my problem with Firefox >>> traditionally - I too often had to use IE to use sites I needed to use. So >>> I just figured the heck with it - if I'm in IE half the time anyhow it >>> doesn't make sense for me to maintain a separate browser. >>> >>> >>> >>> Ben M. Schorr >>> Chief Executive Officer >>> ______________________________________________ >>> Roland Schorr & Tower >>> www.rolandschorr.com >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:31 AM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >>> >>> >>> >>> Firefox 3.0 downloaded & installed on my laptop. Seems to be much much >>> faster loading, and so far not hogging system resources. >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:14 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Yeah, but is that? Like $5? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:09 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >>> >>> Doh! >>> >>> I guess we were grandfathered, then. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Chris Blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:04 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >>> >>> The Wii Internet Channel is now 500 points. It was free in the 'beta' >>> phase, but they started charging for it after it went final. >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.nintendo.com/wii/channels >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:59 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >>> >>> Yep...just add the Internet channel. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:53 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >>> >>> LOL >>> I thought you had to pay to get a browser on the Wii? >>> Do you mean you just add the internet channel? >>> I will have to check on this tonight. >>> Surfing the net on a 55" LCD will be..um..interesting. >>> LOL >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:50 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >>> >>> fee for the wii? brb, gotta go pee... >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:43 PM, David Mazzaccaro >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > No fee? >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:22 PM >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues >>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >>> > >>> > Yep. The Wii "Internet Channel" is awesome. You use the Wii wireless >>> > controllers to surf the web. Opera installs when you choose to load >>> the >>> > Internet channel. >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:14 PM >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues >>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >>> > >>> > "Opera on the Wii" >>> > - Is this free? >>> > >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:10 PM >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues >>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >>> > >>> > Mozilla.com is down. >>> > >>> > BTW: If you want Firefox 3.0 now, here's the URL: >>> > >>> > http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-GB >>> > >>> > Remember, though, while you can get it now using this URL, it won't >>> > count >>> > toward the World record unless you wait a while and download from the >>> > primary download page. >>> > >>> > Our kids surf the Internet at home using Opera on the Wii. >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:03 PM >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues >>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >>> > >>> > There are some of us that browse the internet at home for >>> entertainment, >>> > you >>> > know. >>> > All work and no play makes be get a job at the post office. >>> > >>> > Christopher J. Bosak >>> > Vector Company >>> > c. 847.603.4673 >>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > >>> > "You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue." >>> > - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me >>> > >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 12:02 hrs >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues >>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >>> > >>> > That could be true. I only visit web sites that allow me to do my >>> job. >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 12:32 PM >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues >>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >>> > >>> > Well, I'm a Moz fan and do promote FF to people when the conversation >>> is >>> > going that way. I don't really care what people use, I just don't want >>> > them >>> > (i.e. most folk) to use IE. You say you've never been hi-jacked or >>> > scripted, >>> > and I assume you mean you're browser's never been compromised in any >>> > way. I >>> > guess that also means your minimalists tendencies expand into what >>> > websites >>> > you visit too, because there are quite a few sites out there you *just >>> > don't >>> > visit* using IE. FF and Opera et al are not immune, but IMO IE is the >>> > single >>> > biggest security hole in Windows, years running. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Mike Gill >>> > >>> > >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:11 AM >>> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> >> Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >>> >> >>> >> YMMV, I believe, too. >>> >> >>> >> Personally, I've not seen the substance. I get frustrated with >>> >> technology >>> >> pretty easily if it doesn't work the way I do. And, when that >>> happens >>> >> it >>> >> comes off the PC fairly quickly. I treat my computer as something >>> >> critical >>> >> to my well being. If I feel an application is just taking up space, >>> >> instead >>> >> of providing value to me, I don't keep it there. I've downloaded FF >>> > so >>> >> many >>> >> times, and removed it within a day of installation. >>> >> >>> >> As for security -- I've never been hijacked, or scripted. No Maxthon >>> >> here. >>> >> Again, I'm a software minimalist. Maxthon adds features that I'll >>> >> never >>> >> use. I just want to work. >>> >> >>> >> I might agree with the view of FF, if it weren't for Opera. Opera >>> > kind >>> >> of >>> >> puts the whole hype versus value to rest. Just my opinion. >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:35 AM >>> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> >> Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >>> >> >>> >> I think the success of Firefox has gone way beyond hype at this >>> point. >>> >> And, I have posted here multiple times on my comparisons of IE >>> memory >>> >> use vs. Firefox; the majority of those tests have been negative to >>> IE. >>> >> >>> >> I wasnt looking to get into YABA, but while FF only gets better, IE >>> >> only gets worse. Its only saving grace in the past few years has >>> been >>> >> add-ons like Maxthon. >>> >> >>> >> Security-wise, I can point you to plenty of sites that will exploit >>> >> the hell out of IE but cant to FF. >>> >> >>> >> I dont appreciate the Mac-zealot style of hype that FF users promote >>> - >>> >> but the hype has substance. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> > Nah, I just don't like to use things based on hype. >>> >> > >>> >> > I know, I know. Hype pretty much runs the industry these days (ex. >>> >> iPhone), >>> >> > but following the crowd gives me a bad feeling. >>> >> > >>> >> > Plus, I've never had much luck with Firefox, so I don't see the >>> >> benefit. >>> >> > It's slow, eats away at memory, etc. >>> >> > >>> >> > Now, Opera, on the other hand. No hype. Great product. That's >>> the >>> >> only >>> >> > 3rd party browser I would recommend. >>> >> > >>> >> > -----Original Message----- >>> >> > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:53 AM >>> >> > To: NT System Admin Issues >>> >> > Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >>> >> > >>> >> > Because Rod doesn't like anyone to use anything non-Microsoft. It >>> >> > scares him. ;-) >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Martin Blackstone >>> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >> >> Why? Seriously. 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