Happy happy, joy joy.  FF 3.0 using IE Tabs, Sharepoint works, I can open,
edit and save documents.  Sweet!!   It's gotten even better, I can manage my
Nortel VPN in FF and it looks like I can admin Project Server in FF.

Yup, I'm doing a happy dance right now!!

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Terry Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Well I am not sure what you are doing with SharePoint, we have it up and
> are starting to test it.  After testing we will see if and how we want
> to deploy it.  I just hit it with FireFox 3.0 and so far I do not see
> any problems.  However we only have it installed and not much content
> there yet.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:06 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
>
> If you consider how many companies in the past screwed themselves by
> being locked into the Lotus Notes framework, you would be wise to make
> such considerations about other limited-compatibility products as
> well.
>
> Even if Lotus Notes worked for you, there was a continuous financial
> investment that likely could have been better invested elsewhere at a
> certain point.
>
> I'm not nay-saying the value of Sharepoint, but Kurt makes a point
> that you should consider. Microsoft's continued stance in not
> supporting browser compatibility is quite shortsighted.
>
> I know from security testing that I would definitely prefer my users
> to use Firefox. I wish I could be complacent in the use of IE, but its
> just not practical in my organization where I have to allow my users
> to investigate information online.
>
> This directly translates to home use - which is where the majority of
> the worlds phishing/trojan/zombie issues now lay.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Ban SharePoint because it doesn't work with 3rd party browsers? That's
> just not a real bright statement. SharePoint solves business problems,
> browsers don't.
> >
> > And it certainly is not Microsoft's only way of making money.
> > Tim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:47 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
> >
> > I think it would instead be a reason why SharePoint would be banned
> > from your network...
> >
> > After all, any vendor whose only way of making a buck is to get
> > customers locked in by destroying compatibility with standards
> > shouldn't be encouraged, now should it?
> >
> > Heh.
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Don Ely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> SharePoint is most certainly not FF friendly which is why FF will be
> banned
> >> from our network...
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Ben Schorr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Do all sites work in it?  That's been my problem with Firefox
> >>> traditionally - I too often had to use IE to use sites I needed to
> use.  So
> >>> I just figured the heck with it - if I'm in IE half the time anyhow
> it
> >>> doesn't make sense for me to maintain a separate browser.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ben M. Schorr
> >>> Chief Executive Officer
> >>> ______________________________________________
> >>> Roland Schorr & Tower
> >>> www.rolandschorr.com
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:31 AM
> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >>> Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Firefox 3.0 downloaded & installed on my laptop.  Seems to be much
> much
> >>> faster loading, and so far not hogging system resources.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:14 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, but is that?  Like $5?
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>
> >>> From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:09 PM
> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >>> Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
> >>>
> >>> Doh!
> >>>
> >>> I guess we were grandfathered, then.
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Chris Blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:04 PM
> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >>> Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
> >>>
> >>> The Wii Internet Channel is now 500 points. It was free in the
> 'beta'
> >>> phase, but they started charging for it after it went final.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://www.nintendo.com/wii/channels
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:59 PM
> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >>> Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
> >>>
> >>> Yep...just add the Internet channel.
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:53 PM
> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >>> Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
> >>>
> >>> LOL
> >>> I thought you had to pay to get a browser on the Wii?
> >>> Do you mean you just add the internet channel?
> >>> I will have to check on this tonight.
> >>> Surfing the net on a 55" LCD will be..um..interesting.
> >>> LOL
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>
> >>> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:50 PM
> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >>> Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
> >>>
> >>> fee for the wii? brb, gotta go pee...
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:43 PM, David Mazzaccaro
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> > No fee?
> >>> >
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:22 PM
> >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
> >>> >
> >>> > Yep. The Wii "Internet Channel" is awesome.  You use the Wii
> wireless
> >>> > controllers to surf the web.  Opera installs when you choose to
> load
> >>> the
> >>> > Internet channel.
> >>> >
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:14 PM
> >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
> >>> >
> >>> > "Opera on the Wii"
> >>> > - Is this free?
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:10 PM
> >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
> >>> >
> >>> > Mozilla.com is down.
> >>> >
> >>> > BTW: If you want Firefox 3.0 now, here's the URL:
> >>> >
> >>> > http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-GB
> >>> >
> >>> > Remember, though, while you can get it now using this URL, it
> won't
> >>> > count
> >>> > toward the World record unless you wait a while and download from
> the
> >>> > primary download page.
> >>> >
> >>> > Our kids surf the Internet at home using Opera on the Wii.
> >>> >
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:03 PM
> >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
> >>> >
> >>> > There are some of us that browse the internet at home for
> >>> entertainment,
> >>> > you
> >>> > know.
> >>> > All work and no play makes be get a job at the post office.
> >>> >
> >>> > Christopher J. Bosak
> >>> > Vector Company
> >>> > c. 847.603.4673
> >>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> >
> >>> > "You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue."
> >>> > - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 12:02 hrs
> >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
> >>> >
> >>> > That could be true.  I only visit web sites that allow me to do my
> >>> job.
> >>> >
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 12:32 PM
> >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
> >>> >
> >>> > Well, I'm a Moz fan and do promote FF to people when the
> conversation
> >>> is
> >>> > going that way. I don't really care what people use, I just don't
> want
> >>> > them
> >>> > (i.e. most folk) to use IE. You say you've never been hi-jacked or
> >>> > scripted,
> >>> > and I assume you mean you're browser's never been compromised in
> any
> >>> > way. I
> >>> > guess that also means your minimalists tendencies expand into what
> >>> > websites
> >>> > you visit too, because there are quite a few sites out there you
> *just
> >>> > don't
> >>> > visit* using IE. FF and Opera et al are not immune, but IMO IE is
> the
> >>> > single
> >>> > biggest security hole in Windows, years running.
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Mike Gill
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>> >> From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:11 AM
> >>> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >>> >> Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
> >>> >>
> >>> >> YMMV, I believe, too.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Personally, I've not seen the substance.  I get frustrated with
> >>> >> technology
> >>> >> pretty easily if it doesn't work the way I do.  And, when that
> >>> happens
> >>> >> it
> >>> >> comes off the PC fairly quickly.  I treat my computer as
> something
> >>> >> critical
> >>> >> to my well being.  If I feel an application is just taking up
> space,
> >>> >> instead
> >>> >> of providing value to me, I don't keep it there.  I've downloaded
> FF
> >>> > so
> >>> >> many
> >>> >> times, and removed it within a day of installation.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> As for security -- I've never been hijacked, or scripted.  No
> Maxthon
> >>> >> here.
> >>> >> Again, I'm a software minimalist.  Maxthon adds features that
> I'll
> >>> >> never
> >>> >> use.  I just want to work.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I might agree with the view of FF, if it weren't for Opera.
> Opera
> >>> > kind
> >>> >> of
> >>> >> puts the whole hype versus value to rest.  Just my opinion.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>> >> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:35 AM
> >>> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >>> >> Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I think the success of Firefox has gone way beyond hype at this
> >>> point.
> >>> >>  And, I have posted here multiple times on my comparisons of IE
> >>> memory
> >>> >> use vs. Firefox; the majority of those tests have been negative
> to
> >>> IE.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I wasnt looking to get into YABA, but while FF only gets better,
> IE
> >>> >> only gets worse.  Its only saving grace in the past few years has
> >>> been
> >>> >> add-ons like Maxthon.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Security-wise, I can point you to plenty of sites that will
> exploit
> >>> >> the hell out of IE but cant to FF.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I dont appreciate the Mac-zealot style of hype that FF users
> promote
> >>> -
> >>> >> but the hype has substance.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Rod Trent
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >> > Nah, I just don't like to use things based on hype.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > I know, I know.  Hype pretty much runs the industry these days
> (ex.
> >>> >> iPhone),
> >>> >> > but following the crowd gives me a bad feeling.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Plus, I've never had much luck with Firefox, so I don't see the
> >>> >> benefit.
> >>> >> > It's slow, eats away at memory, etc.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Now, Opera, on the other hand.  No hype.  Great product.
> That's
> >>> the
> >>> >> only
> >>> >> > 3rd party browser I would recommend.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> >> > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:53 AM
> >>> >> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >>> >> > Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Because Rod doesn't like anyone to use anything non-Microsoft.
> It
> >>> >> > scares him.  ;-)
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Martin Blackstone
> >>> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> >> >> Why? Seriously. Why?
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>> >> >> From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:55 AM
> >>> >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >>> >> >> Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Don't do it.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Like sheep to the slaughter.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>> >> >> From: Peter van Houten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:53 AM
> >>> >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >>> >> >> Subject: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Today is supposed to be the official release day for Firefox
> 3.0
> >>> > and
> >>> >> >> Mozilla are trying to set a record for the number of
> downloads.
> >>> > The
> >>> >> >> Firefox home page is slightly out of date but the full 3.0
> >>> download
> >>> >> is
> >>> >> >> here for those that are interested:
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> ftp://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0
> >>> >> >>
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> >>> --
> >>> Sherry Abercrombie
> >>>
> >>> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from
> magic."
> >>> Arthur C. Clarke
> >>
> >>
> >
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