I _suspect_ that they are the same.

The agent basically allows a Kerberos federation to happen on a per-system 
basis, without punching holes in a firewall.

To wax philosophical: one of the services I offer is to monitor clients 
servers. I give them differing prices dependent on whether I will get a "clear 
channel" (i.e., VPN access) to their network or whether I have to put a 
hardware or software agent on their premises. I don't see it any different from 
a Microsoft perspective...my clients are solidly in the SMB space. Granted they 
KNOW me and they don't know the "evil empire", but overall, the shift has 
already started to happen...

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCITP:EM/MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 4:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Spiceworks 3.0 Released

I'm only referring to the management parts that Rod mentioned. The user 
functionality pieces may have their uses for many enterprises regardless of 
size.


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 3:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Spiceworks 3.0 Released

Au contraire.

The little agent that they install for Microsoft online to allow single-signon 
for Outlook, OWA, SharePoint, OCS - it rocks.

It's getting good play in enterprises of all sizes.

(Crap I hope that isn't NDA.)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCITP:EM/MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 4:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Spiceworks 3.0 Released

Fancy eco-talk for "Offshore your IT group to a dam-centric Microsoft DC near 
you". ;-)
We're seeing no uptake on this foolishness in the SMB market.
Perhaps they can make a go of it in the enterprise though.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 2:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Spiceworks 3.0 Released

Tough to fight since MS is promoting that doing so helps companies 'go green' 
by offloading unnecessary electricity and carbons.  Because its being touted as 
such, particularly to the gov't agencies, there's no turning back.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 3:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Spiceworks 3.0 Released

And those of us on the "inside" are fighting them tooth and nail on it. :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 2:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Spiceworks 3.0 Released

It’s a give and take thing.  Spiceworks has always been that way.  You just 
have to figure out whether or not you trust their security stream.

In the future, you'll actually see more companies doing this.  Microsoft is in 
deep for SaaS functionality for all of their products.  They are working on 
"Live" versions of things like ConfigMgr and OpsMgr now.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 3:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: re: Spiceworks 3.0 Released

Is it just me, or does the Spiceworks TOS and the fact that they send data back 
to their parent server make this seem to be a really BAD idea to be running on 
your network?
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