VMWare's got an interesting white paper out on SQL Server 2005
performance, comparing running on 32 bit and 64 bit OS's, worth a quick
flick through:

 

http://www.vmware.com/files/pdf/SQLServerWorkloads.pdf

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 July 2008 14:00
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Will it *really* not work virtualized?

 

I have one that is over 6GB with about 75-100 people hitting it, very
heavy usage.  This particular one has been virtualized for 5 years.
We've had issues with it once on performance when we applied an update
from the vendor, they determined that we needed to truncate the DB to
get it smaller, funny thing was, it was really an issue with the way
their update was programmed.  Calls to the database were causing it to
do a full query on all the tables to enumerate the next sequence number.
So the performance issues were not because of virtualization, it was
because of bad programming.    Everything else is much smaller (~1GB) in
size with a maximum of 12-20 people using them.

On 7/22/08, David Lum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

How big are your databases Sherry, and how many folks are hitting them?

 

Dave

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Will it *really* not work virtualized?

 

We've got about 14 SQL and/or other production database servers running
in VMWare, plus 3 - 4 times that many for Dev/Test environments with no
issues.  We do have our main Siebel production servers running on
physical servers, but all the periphery Siebel apps are virtual.  Some
of the production SQL apps that we have virtual are Project Server,
SharePoint, a POS app etc.  

On 7/22/08, John Hornbuckle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It's a program to use in school libraries for checking books in and out.
It uses an SQL database
(http://www.fsc.follett.com/_files/fsc/secured/system_requirements/Dest%
20School%20sys%20reqs%2010685A%20PDF%20print%207_08a%20(2).pdf)
<http://www.fsc.follett.com/_files/fsc/secured/system_requirements/Dest%
20School%20sys%20reqs%2010685A%20PDF%20print%207_08a%20%282%29.pdf%29> .

 

We're a small district with small schools, and no app we've ever run on
a server has  come anywhere close to fully utilizing the hardware.
That's one of the reasons I want to virtualize more.

 

If the app will run on an XP "server" with a Pentium 4 processor, I
can't imagine that it would be overly demanding. But they do say they
require RAID 1 or 5, so they must be counting on a fair amount of I/O
activity. But I wonder, what exactly is "high" I/O when it comes to
figuring out if something will run okay on a virtual server?

 

 

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Will it *really* not work virtualized?

 

Why would a product not work on a virtual server, well, one that is high
I/O, as in a database server would possibly not work.  What application
specifically are you looking at that says this?  


We've used virtual servers for probably 5 years now, and we've always
taken the approach that we will try it on a virtual server and if it
doesn't work, then go to physical.  So far, we're doing really good with
that approach.  99% of what we've tried on a virtual server has worked.
Now to counter that, we have always looked at what the application will
be doing, evaluated the requirements and load, and made the decision on
whether or not it's a good candidate for virtualization or not a good
candidate for virtualization.   

Now with that said, I do have a caveat, I've never used Hyper-V and
probably will never use it, we've been VMWare since we started with
virtual server, first GSX now the latest release of ESX.  So, I can't
say how Hyper-V utilizes system resources compared to ESX.....

On 7/22/08, John Hornbuckle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I was looking over the system requirements for a particular piece of
software we're looking at purchasing, and I noticed that it specifically
says it has to be on a physical (non-virtual) machine.

Now, this software doesn't have any special hardware requirements.
Processor requirements are modest, as are requirements for RAM and
storage space. And yet, the requirements explicitly say, "Microsoft
Windows Server 2008 Standard or Enterprise without Hyper-V" (if Server
2008 is the OS--it also supports Server 2003, XP, or Vista as the server
OS).

As I've mentioned before, I'm brand new to server virtualization. I'm
playing with Hyper-V right now for the first time. So, I'm sure I'm
missing something.

Why, exactly, would a product like this not work on a virtual server?




John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us


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