IMHO, yes, it's memorizing the Microsoft answers to the questions because if you answer real world experience, you get it wrong.
Disclaimer: I haven't taken a MCSE test since I got my certification for 2000. On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Tim Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, it is diverging into another topic, but isn't that what most of the > MCSE tests are anyway, memorizing the answers to questions rather than > demonstrating an understanding of the subject? Or, have they changed > recently? > > ...Tim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:17 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Can you say "lawsuit"? I knew you could... > > > > You're so cynical! :-) Maybe they just want to make sure people are > > actually learning the content rather than memorizing brain dumps. I > > know that GMAC--the organization behind the GMAT assessment that's > > required for entry into business school--has made similar moves, > > cracking down on people it found participating in forums on brain dump > > sites. Thankfully, the only forum I participated in when studying made > > it very clear that verbatim posting of questions would not be > > tolerated. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tim Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 2:03 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Can you say "lawsuit"? I knew you could... > > > > The way I see it, their goal is to ensure that you (quoting from the > > article) "Use the study materials recommended by the owner of the exam. > > Never buy or use sample questions and answers from unauthorized > > sources..." > > > > Sounds like FUD to make sure that they get their cut from any > > preparation materials used. > > > > ...Tim > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:53 AM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > Subject: RE: Can you say "lawsuit"? I knew you could... > > > > > > The certifying entities have nothing to gain and much to lose by > > > incorrectly labeling a test-taker as a cheater. Maybe I'm being > > naïve, > > > but I would assume that they would feel pretty confident in a > > > technology like this before making use of it. > > > > > > Of course, as Tim perhaps was implying, maybe their goal is just to > > > shake people up. I just read the article twice, and unless I missed > > it, > > > no one actually said they were going to be doing this--they only said > > > they *could* do it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Hornbuckle > > > MIS Department > > > Taylor County School District > > > 318 North Clark Street > > > Perry, FL 32347 > > > > > > www.taylor.k12.fl.us > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 12:58 PM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > Subject: Can you say "lawsuit"? I knew you could... > > > > > > I wonder just exactly how valid these supposed forensics are. I'm > > > willing to bet that their methods are, uh, a bit unsound. > > > > > > Mind you, I haven't taken a certification exam for nearly 15 years, > > > and don't really think I will any time soon, but the approach taken > > > here seems likely to cause real problems. > > > > > > > > > http://www.networkworld.com/columnists/2008/082608musthaler.html > > > > > > "...the companies that create and own the tests have a virtually > > > foolproof way to know whether you've used illegal materials when you > > > take an exam..." > > > > > > and > > > > > > "Every time an individual takes a certification exam online, there > > are > > > digital "fingerprints" that identify how long that person took to > > > answer each question, whether he went back and changed any answers, > > > and so on. Using data-forensics techniques, this digital evidence is > > > analyzed for every exam taken. With incredible accuracy, the > > forensics > > > reveal patterns that identify cheaters. Even inadvertent cheaters -- > > > those who didn't know they used illegal preparatory materials -- can > > > be caught, but they are not distinguished from people who cheat > > > intentionally." > > > > > > > > > Kurt > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > -- Sherry Abercrombie "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 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