That's what I meant by just starting to read, some of the tech blogs I
have read, were discussing the single hardware layer and that fact that
all of the VPS's share that same Hardware layer that if something
happens to the "Host" in terms of a windows kernel or issue with a
driver that all of the VPS go down.  ESX would hold the same, but it
runs a separate OS that has specific driver requirements as well as a
specific update path so they would say that a benefit to VMWare and
Virtual Server.

I would imagine that a VZ server running 2003 that has to be patched and
such like a regular windows box and would make the VPS's a bit more
susceptible to "issues".  Like I said, just starting to look at the
architecture in VZ, and I am like most in Vmware and VS, know what I
know, good on most issues but I know when to call the big boys.  With
VZ, I am just all paper and I have not even turned the first page yet..

Going to get a demo next week to start playing with, good to know there
are specific scenarios that another solution maybe better suited, but I
have to be able to support it...

Jon, I will definitely stop by and see what you have been playing with
the last few weeks.  Sounds fun...Call you later in the week to schedule
it up.

Thanks Michael..mighty nice to answer my questions on the long weekend.

Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Virtuozzo Migration

Where do you get 8? I used to consider it cost-neutral with 3.

Each VPS is fully isolated. Not sure what you mean by "true isolation".

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Virtuozzo Migration

Thanks Phil, That is an important note for clients moving from 32 bit to
64 bit applications.   It also looks like you have to be putting at
least 8 servers on a physical box to make it cost effective.

I am also somewhat concerned with the true isolation of a client's VPS
if a single Hardware layer is presented vs what I perceive to be a more
isolated and resilient hardware layer per VM. What happens in one VM
does not cross over to all the others.  I have a lot more to read on
this, I just started today so I thank you for the info it has made a lot
of concepts click.

Thanks

Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Virtuozzo Migration

It's not that Virtuozzo limits you to a particular SW platform, it
limits you to ONE specific operating system release on ONE CPU
architecture. If you choose to use 64-bit Server 2003 Enterprise R2 in
your containers, that's what you're stuck with. If you need something
else (say, 32-bit Server 2003 Standard R2) you need a new virtualization
server, or forgo virualization altogether for that one machine.

To give you something to compare it to, Virtuozzo is similar in concept
to FreeBSD jails and Solaris containers.

VMware ESX may be less efficient than VZ, but you gain infinitely more
flexibility. I've personally run 64-bit Linux, 32-bit Linux, 64-bit
2003, 32-bit 2003, and 32-bit NetBSD on an ESX box at the same time...
can't do that with VZ.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> So far it seems that the proc and memory mgmt in VZ is better than
> VMWare, so why would a company consolidating servers or looking for
> expansion go with VMWare over VZ if they are staying all on the same
SW
> platform?

-- 

Phil Brutsche
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