Stopping a service is beyond what I'd allow a non-admin do, never mind
a non-technical user.  If they need to restart the service, they can
reboot.

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ME2



On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Ralph Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We are talking about non-technical people who don't know what to do when
> a job is stuck in the print queue.  They do what they are supposed to do
> - use the GUI to clear the job from the queue - but it won't clear.
>
> Very often the only way to get it out is to stop the print spooler, go
> into the in the Windows\system32\spool\printers folder and delete the
> files, then restart the print spooler service.
>
> That is beyond what an average non-technical person can do on their
> workstation, or what I would expect them to do.
>
> When the average J Doe is driving down the street and suddenly their
> horn comes on and won't go off, even if they turn off the car, do you
> expect them disassemble the air bag assembly, and try to fix the horn
> switch or crawl around looking for a horn relay to fix, or do you think
> they should go to their mechanic?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 12:10 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Non-techies clear out print jobs??
>
> To go with the overused automotive analogy, there's a big difference
> between an ASE-certified mechanic (many members of this list), a
> driveway/back yard mechanic (the neighborhood "computer guy"), and the
> average Mr John Doe driving down the street (an end user who knows their
> way around the machine well enough to do what they need to but can't fix
> them to save their life).
>
> To go with that analogy, we're talking about people who don't know how
> to drive a car, and yet are being told to go drive one! Luckily,
> improperly-operated computers don't kill & maim people.
>
> If they're unfamiliar enough with your operating environment to perform
> basic tasks - or perform slightly more advanced tasks using written
> instructions - they either need some form of training or let go and
> replaced with someone who is.
>
> Even if the job isn't primarily geared towards IT work there's no excuse
> for being unfamiliar with the dominant operating environment in the vast
> majority of all environments, business and otherwise - Microsoft
> Windows.
>
> We're coming up on the second decade of the century. A decade ago the
> sort of thing we're talking about was considered acceptable. In a decade
> or two it'll get to the point where there'll be no excuse for computer
> illiteracy.
>
> Ralph Smith wrote:
>> Wow.  They might be non-techies, but they might be good at their job -
>> grief counselor, finding shelter for homeless people, stuff like that
>> where they don't need to be technical.
>
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>
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