FWIW, Have the non-techie fill out a help desk ticket for this.
Devin

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Stopping a service is beyond what I'd allow a non-admin do, never mind
> a non-technical user.  If they need to restart the service, they can
> reboot.
>
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> ME2
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> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Ralph Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > We are talking about non-technical people who don't know what to do when
> > a job is stuck in the print queue.  They do what they are supposed to do
> > - use the GUI to clear the job from the queue - but it won't clear.
> >
> > Very often the only way to get it out is to stop the print spooler, go
> > into the in the Windows\system32\spool\printers folder and delete the
> > files, then restart the print spooler service.
> >
> > That is beyond what an average non-technical person can do on their
> > workstation, or what I would expect them to do.
> >
> > When the average J Doe is driving down the street and suddenly their
> > horn comes on and won't go off, even if they turn off the car, do you
> > expect them disassemble the air bag assembly, and try to fix the horn
> > switch or crawl around looking for a horn relay to fix, or do you think
> > they should go to their mechanic?
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 12:10 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Non-techies clear out print jobs??
> >
> > To go with the overused automotive analogy, there's a big difference
> > between an ASE-certified mechanic (many members of this list), a
> > driveway/back yard mechanic (the neighborhood "computer guy"), and the
> > average Mr John Doe driving down the street (an end user who knows their
> > way around the machine well enough to do what they need to but can't fix
> > them to save their life).
> >
> > To go with that analogy, we're talking about people who don't know how
> > to drive a car, and yet are being told to go drive one! Luckily,
> > improperly-operated computers don't kill & maim people.
> >
> > If they're unfamiliar enough with your operating environment to perform
> > basic tasks - or perform slightly more advanced tasks using written
> > instructions - they either need some form of training or let go and
> > replaced with someone who is.
> >
> > Even if the job isn't primarily geared towards IT work there's no excuse
> > for being unfamiliar with the dominant operating environment in the vast
> > majority of all environments, business and otherwise - Microsoft
> > Windows.
> >
> > We're coming up on the second decade of the century. A decade ago the
> > sort of thing we're talking about was considered acceptable. In a decade
> > or two it'll get to the point where there'll be no excuse for computer
> > illiteracy.
> >
> > Ralph Smith wrote:
> >> Wow.  They might be non-techies, but they might be good at their job -
> >> grief counselor, finding shelter for homeless people, stuff like that
> >> where they don't need to be technical.
> >
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> > Phil Brutsche
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