Stu, Can we setup a sunbelt-politics list to move this discussion there? (that's a hint to call this thread quits) I have my opinions, I share them when appropriate, this is not an appropraite forum.
As to the original topic, we're an accounting firm, and we're planning on increased spending. Since I haven't finalized my budget yet, I can't say by how much, but probably about 15%. On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Chinnery, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sounds like fun (over-seas assignment, that is). Although I assume your > cost of living is higher than if in the US.? > > > Paul Chinnery > Network Administrator > Memorial Medical Center > 231-845-2319 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kelsay, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 12:25 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying > decisions? > > TV's are not taxed. You pay a TV license each year that funds the BBC. > > By the way I am an American who lives and works here. I last lived > outside of Boston. > > > Mark > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 31 October 2008 16:03 > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying > decisions? > > But that's your government adding taxes...BTW, you guys still get taxed > on tv's? > > > Paul Chinnery > Network Administrator > Memorial Medical Center > 231-845-2319 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kelsay, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 4:54 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying > decisions? > > I am paying about $8 a gallon here in the UK. No sympathy. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 30 October 2008 21:47 > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying > decisions? > > Paid, 2.02 this morning (San Antonio Texas) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:42 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying > decisions? > > Lol, I paid $2.59 yesterday, and was thankful (California) > > Joe Heaton > Employment Training Panel > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:42 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying > decisions? > > On the positive side -- I found gas at $1.89/gallon today. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Guyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:39 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying > decisions? > > Well........the economy pretty much sucks here in PA too, BUT the > Phillies just won the World Series, so the pain is numbed for a few > days, at least. > > :) > > Don Guyer > Systems Engineer > Information Services Department > Prudential Fox Roach/ Trident > 431 W. Lancaster Avenue > Devon, PA 19333 > Ph: (610) 993-3299 > Fax: (610) 650-5306 > www.prufoxroach.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:17 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying > decisions? > > It aint no bed of roses up here in RI... I wish I was down in PA... > > Z > > Edward E. Ziots > Network Engineer > Lifespan Organization > MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA > Phone: 401-639-3505 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:13 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying > decisions? > > For some of us, the irony is on the fact that those who live in the most > socialist parts of our country never seem to be able to figure out why > the economy is so much worse in their area in comparison to other parts > of the US. (i.e. - MI, MA, RI) TVK > > -----Original Message----- > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:21 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: OT: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying > decisions? > > roflwaffes. > > Our economy is already well socialized at the state and federal levels. > Edging it to be more (hopefully only for a short term) or less for the > welfare of a very hurting country is not necessarily a bad thing - for > the good of the country. Not that you are, but to brand him a > socialist, or any ideas he is pushing as "socialism", is silly IMO. Our > economy is a blend of capitalist and socialist ideals. > > -- > ME2 > > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:32 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Probably not a great day to retort on this, but you will either agree > or > > hunt me down.. > > > > 2009 is going to be a bad year in the economy. You don't bounce back > from > > a trillion dollar globalwide investment loss, the largest downslide in > the > > economy in over 70 years and a huge unemployment number.. > > > > I also don't care who is the President, they are not going to fix our > > problem. The president is a part of the checks and balances when it > comes > > to the bills congress puts through, and yes he has an agenda and will > push > > it with Congress; making it harder or easier to pass bills..Good or > BAD. > > > > > > > > I can also tell you that I will be voting for McCain for the simple > fact > > that Obama is moving this country toward a socialized economy no > matter how > > you dress up the words. He wants to increase the taxes for me as a > business > > owner and redistribute it in the form of higher taxes and a bloated > > government. Not to mention his provision for bring in illegals and > giving > > them a driver license, benefits, social security(Which who will pay > for > > that? You and I that's who). The welfare system kicked into high > gear.....I > > did not work my butt off 60 to 70 hours a week to have someone who > wants to > > sit on their butt for a year and take 60% welfare checks because > McDonalds > > doesn't pay as much... among other personal value decisions.. > > > > If you have worked hard and saved you should not be penalized and your > > > wealth redistributed simply because someone does not have as much. > The very > > essence of this country was built upon hardwork and ingenuity, those > who > > don't want to work and work hard are not entitled to the benefits of > wealth > > from those that do. Also provide 100% healthcare..A noble goal, but > the > > reality is that 100% healthcare is universal socialization and > everyone > > paying a large piece to redistribute to everyone else who doesn't and > the > > quality of care drops. Look at France...They pay CSG and > CDRS(Healthcare, > > Social Security) taxes against their income and then their tax bracket > after > > those taxes is up to 50%, this can equate to 60%+ of your income to > taxes... > > > > > > > > Oh and to further my soapbox, One of the largest reasons we are where > we are > > is a lack of personal responsibility (Mostly Wall Street and the Banks > being > > greedy and making bad business decisions) and then demanding that our > > government pay for the mistakes of business owners, people who buy > homes and > > cars we had no business buying, and saying, "Save me, I am a stupid > person > > who takes no responsibility or my actions, but I will vote for whoever > is > > going to promise me everything." > > > > > > > > Remember this. "A Government large enough to give you everything you > want, > > is a government large enough to take everything you have." -- Henry > Ford > > > > > > > > Ok off soapbox, back to regularly scheduled tech support. > > > > > > > > From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:37 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying > decisions? > > > > > > > > The college educational system which has grown by 440% in costs should > be > > able to not be cutting budgets. 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