Agreed on killing the politics part ot the thread. As for the increase in spending nice. I just got told yesterday to expect another 4%+ cut in all budgets this fiscal year to keep it simple it was 15% last year, 15% more this year on top of last years 15% and now another 4%. We actually got asked if cutting people was a good idea. If my boss had not been present I would have agreed to cut people. We have one that only comes in 2 days a week and still gets full salary that amounts to half to half of the 4% they want to cut.
Jon On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Jonathan Link <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Stu, > > Can we setup a sunbelt-politics list to move this discussion there? > (that's a hint to call this thread quits) I have my opinions, I share them > when appropriate, this is not an appropraite forum. > > As to the original topic, we're an accounting firm, and we're planning on > increased spending. Since I haven't finalized my budget yet, I can't say by > how much, but probably about 15%. > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Chinnery, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Sounds like fun (over-seas assignment, that is). Although I assume your >> cost of living is higher than if in the US.? >> >> >> Paul Chinnery >> Network Administrator >> Memorial Medical Center >> 231-845-2319 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kelsay, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 12:25 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying >> decisions? >> >> TV's are not taxed. You pay a TV license each year that funds the BBC. >> >> By the way I am an American who lives and works here. I last lived >> outside of Boston. >> >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 31 October 2008 16:03 >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying >> decisions? >> >> But that's your government adding taxes...BTW, you guys still get taxed >> on tv's? >> >> >> Paul Chinnery >> Network Administrator >> Memorial Medical Center >> 231-845-2319 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kelsay, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 4:54 AM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying >> decisions? >> >> I am paying about $8 a gallon here in the UK. No sympathy. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 30 October 2008 21:47 >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying >> decisions? >> >> Paid, 2.02 this morning (San Antonio Texas) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:42 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying >> decisions? >> >> Lol, I paid $2.59 yesterday, and was thankful (California) >> >> Joe Heaton >> Employment Training Panel >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:42 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying >> decisions? >> >> On the positive side -- I found gas at $1.89/gallon today. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Don Guyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:39 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying >> decisions? >> >> Well........the economy pretty much sucks here in PA too, BUT the >> Phillies just won the World Series, so the pain is numbed for a few >> days, at least. >> >> :) >> >> Don Guyer >> Systems Engineer >> Information Services Department >> Prudential Fox Roach/ Trident >> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue >> Devon, PA 19333 >> Ph: (610) 993-3299 >> Fax: (610) 650-5306 >> www.prufoxroach.com >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:17 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying >> decisions? >> >> It aint no bed of roses up here in RI... I wish I was down in PA... >> >> Z >> >> Edward E. Ziots >> Network Engineer >> Lifespan Organization >> MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA >> Phone: 401-639-3505 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:13 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying >> decisions? >> >> For some of us, the irony is on the fact that those who live in the most >> socialist parts of our country never seem to be able to figure out why >> the economy is so much worse in their area in comparison to other parts >> of the US. (i.e. - MI, MA, RI) TVK >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:21 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: OT: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying >> decisions? >> >> roflwaffes. >> >> Our economy is already well socialized at the state and federal levels. >> Edging it to be more (hopefully only for a short term) or less for the >> welfare of a very hurting country is not necessarily a bad thing - for >> the good of the country. Not that you are, but to brand him a >> socialist, or any ideas he is pushing as "socialism", is silly IMO. Our >> economy is a blend of capitalist and socialist ideals. >> >> -- >> ME2 >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:32 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Probably not a great day to retort on this, but you will either agree >> or >> > hunt me down.. >> > >> > 2009 is going to be a bad year in the economy. You don't bounce back >> from >> > a trillion dollar globalwide investment loss, the largest downslide in >> the >> > economy in over 70 years and a huge unemployment number.. >> > >> > I also don't care who is the President, they are not going to fix our >> > problem. The president is a part of the checks and balances when it >> comes >> > to the bills congress puts through, and yes he has an agenda and will >> push >> > it with Congress; making it harder or easier to pass bills..Good or >> BAD. >> > >> > >> > >> > I can also tell you that I will be voting for McCain for the simple >> fact >> > that Obama is moving this country toward a socialized economy no >> matter how >> > you dress up the words. He wants to increase the taxes for me as a >> business >> > owner and redistribute it in the form of higher taxes and a bloated >> > government. Not to mention his provision for bring in illegals and >> giving >> > them a driver license, benefits, social security(Which who will pay >> for >> > that? You and I that's who). The welfare system kicked into high >> gear.....I >> > did not work my butt off 60 to 70 hours a week to have someone who >> wants to >> > sit on their butt for a year and take 60% welfare checks because >> McDonalds >> > doesn't pay as much... among other personal value decisions.. >> > >> > If you have worked hard and saved you should not be penalized and your >> >> > wealth redistributed simply because someone does not have as much. >> The very >> > essence of this country was built upon hardwork and ingenuity, those >> who >> > don't want to work and work hard are not entitled to the benefits of >> wealth >> > from those that do. Also provide 100% healthcare..A noble goal, but >> the >> > reality is that 100% healthcare is universal socialization and >> everyone >> > paying a large piece to redistribute to everyone else who doesn't and >> the >> > quality of care drops. Look at France...They pay CSG and >> CDRS(Healthcare, >> > Social Security) taxes against their income and then their tax bracket >> after >> > those taxes is up to 50%, this can equate to 60%+ of your income to >> taxes... >> > >> > >> > >> > Oh and to further my soapbox, One of the largest reasons we are where >> we are >> > is a lack of personal responsibility (Mostly Wall Street and the Banks >> being >> > greedy and making bad business decisions) and then demanding that our >> > government pay for the mistakes of business owners, people who buy >> homes and >> > cars we had no business buying, and saying, "Save me, I am a stupid >> person >> > who takes no responsibility or my actions, but I will vote for whoever >> is >> > going to promise me everything." >> > >> > >> > >> > Remember this. "A Government large enough to give you everything you >> want, >> > is a government large enough to take everything you have." -- Henry >> Ford >> > >> > >> > >> > Ok off soapbox, back to regularly scheduled tech support. >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:37 PM >> > To: NT System Admin Issues >> > Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying >> decisions? >> > >> > >> > >> > The college educational system which has grown by 440% in costs should >> be >> > able to not be cutting budgets. IMO >> > >> > >> > >> > I think no matter who the President is everything will be better >> afterwards, >> > whether we get the big spender and everyone sells stuff to the govt >> and we >> > can cut out healthcare and use the govt's system to save money, or the >> cost >> > saver gets in and it goes back to business as usual. >> > >> > >> > >> > Bush isn't going to do anything between now and then so that's >> probably why >> > everything is topsy turvey, home sales went up last month for the >> first time >> > so I think the end of the skid is coming to a close. 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